Comradeship // Freechat

I was talking with two friends yesterday. Apparently they always supported Palestinians, but once they saw Hamas soldiers screaming Allah Ackbar and kidnapping civilian women, they are of the opinion that they're not better than Israelis. "It's just two Nazi Germanies fighting against eachother." Was a banger I heard during that discussion. Another banger: "You don't see Ukranians murder and kidnap civilians, do you? They are respectful of POW."

I tried my best arguing; to no avail. Whatever I said, I was countered with smth like, "well i support them too, but this kind of force is totally unjustified". So in short I failed the argument.

I rely don't believe they're putting any deep thought into it. They just root for who they're told too.

That's what happens when you operate only on vibes

The top post on "dankmemes" right now "which coincidently has been doing the super edgy thing of agreeing with stayed department propoganda for the last couple years" is the shot from Rick and Marty of "20 minute adventure in and out" literally with putin crossed out and Hamas instead, Russia crossed out and replaced with haza and ukraine crossed out and replaced with Isreal.

In case anyone was wondering if it literally is anything more than "but Ukrainians are white"

This post is attracting a lot of downvotes; it's a shame none of the downvoters have commented

specifically a 3rd-world lib i saw with the status "save palestine and ukraine from israel and russia"

There are very significant parallels, but Ukraine is Israel and Donbas is Palestine.

Global capitalist chessboard. All ethics are an afterthought. 'the ideas of the ruling elite' etc... libs support what they are told to support. Politics are complicated who has time to investigate historical context?

We are in an information war. That's what it boils down to

It's just a trick. When libs have a take, just pat them on the head and be like "that's a good lib, yes Palestinian is good" and just move on. They don't support Palestinians, are they willing to support them with more than a tweet? Nope,

Most interesting to me in all these conflicts is that the same people who claim and know their local media is corrupted and lying about local issues (that they themselves know about), think that same media is telling the truth about some far away country.

Crazy.

If they claim Fox is always lying, than they should turn on Fox news and believe that everything Fox says is a lye.

It would be less disgusting if they did actually be consistent in their equation. In my experience the sort of people who equated Ukraine and Palestine when they wanted people to support Ukraine are now crying about "violence", "disruption of peace" and "terrorists" when Palestinians decide to punch back a little.

:colour palette emoji:

Has anyone noticed how some liberals are disgusting

Yes, and that's as far as I needed to read. It's more than some, though.

If this lead to liberals ending support for Israel then that'd be one thing, but it won't. They'll thoughtlessly compare the situations and then draw essentially zero conclusions.

Ukraine talks about territorial integrity and say that this is their land and the Russian-speaking majority should leave but ...

Recognizes Ichkeria (Chechnya, where no one is fighting for it lol) from Russia on the basis of "self-determination" at the expense of Russia's territorial integrity

Tend to support Kosovar "self-determination" against Serbia against their territorial sovereignty

Supports settlement of Palestinian land (recognized by 138 countries, 7 billion people)

Support Yaroslav Hunka who fought with the nazis for "self-determination" against Soviet territorial sovereignty

And then they support "Israeli territorial sovereignty" just like they support their own as the Slavic Israel.

I haven't seen people comparing Palestine to Ukraine, but I have certainly seen people saying that the recent offensive against Israel is somehow all planned by Moscow...

In a way it might be useful as those same libs might call for (military) aid to Palestina but since our governments are on the side of Israel, the thin veil of bullshit might break

Meanwhile Palestine and the Donbas are almost directly analogous, including the Al-Aqsa Flood and Russian invasion both being in response to a heavily telegraphed impending attack by the actual oppressive forces.

It's actually become worse than this in the last 24 hours. Now they seem to equate Ukraine and Isreal as victims, and call Palestine the aggressor. Have seen some liberals disgustingly accuse Palestine of being the genociders. They throw out history in one breath and rewrite it in the next.