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[–] [email protected] 119 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There is no data loss on Google Drive, and there is no war in Ba Sing Se.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

This is why you do 3-2-1 backups. If you've ever worked for any company, you should know that eventually budgets will get cut, and the service will degrade until something breaks. It doesn't matter whether you're dealing with some family run small business, or the world's largest and most advanced tech company. No system deserves absolute trust, especially long term. I personally rotate 2 local, and 1 or 2 separate cloud providers, depending on how important the data is. Everything not shared is encrypted locally.

[–] [email protected] 108 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's just their latest addition: Google Gaslight.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago

Google will be happy to explain the fix after you sit through 7 hours of unskippable Youtube ads. Then 7 more.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago (14 children)

Get a NAS and start de-Googling yourself.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

But I like Googling myself

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

How else you gonna do it?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Don't forget to make backups!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

A raid counts as a backup, right?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

LMAO Yes! Exactly in the same way that walking backwards towards a cliff counts as backing up. Technically it is a backup, but in practice a disaster is imminent lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

RAID is redundancy. It saves your data if a or two drive fail, but does not help you if the entire RAID system dies (power surge, fire, water damage). Generally if it is on the same system it is not a backup.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

It's on my todo list I swear

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

After Christmas, I think I'm going to spec out a simple two drive 10tb RAID server running a pair of K80s so I can run my NAS and my models on one beefy machine and have all my backups automagically when I am home.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

A raid is not a backup.

But also look at Unraid and maybe more, smaller drives.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Fair point. I'll probably run a RAID5 with extra drives and replicate to a cloud location for DR. Should be more than sufficient for my needs and the rate I generate data. I haven't done any specing out yet -- just brainstorming.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I'm new to the scene. If a raid isn't a backup, then what is?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

It provides redundancy in case a drive fails, but there's no protection if you accidentally delete a file. That's why they say "RAID is not a backup."

[–] Dudewitbow 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Raid can be redundancy, backup is when the data is offsite(be it cloud or drive offsite) to prevent situations like fires or floods from destroying your data. If all your data is in the same place, its still not safe

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Something where your files won't disappear due to a single errant command or ransomware.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hey, slightly better than Apple forums, where all their software is perfect and nothing is ever wrong

[–] [email protected] 58 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hey, that's not true. Apple forums reps will ask you to factory reset everything twice, then refer to store for servicing and then ghost you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Lucky for me I've had a beyond excellent experience with Apple support representative - though not through forum (phone).

The resetting was a bit of a pain, yes. But ultimately it led to a proper and timely resolution.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I'm well entrenched in Apple ecosystem, to the point I hate their guts and their "reset will fix everything" mantra.

Story time.

Lost one of the earphones in my APP2. Went to my local authorized service center to get a replacement since according to Apple they're the only ones that are able to put it into the case. Alright, I guess you need to order replacement part so that doesn't matter.

Couple of days later I pick them up, lady at the counter says to reset them when I'm home. Weird, they could do it themselves, I thought, but had little time to get into that debate. I come home, do the reset procedure, and nothing, keep getting earphone mismatch error. I read up on the internet that it could be mismatched firmware and on advanced gymnastics required to get it fixed, which brings me nowhere after trying for multiple hours.

I return AirPods to the service center and say - you did the service, you fix it. Week later I'm asked to pick them up, get them, return home and... it's the same as before. I return them again, tell them not to call me until they make sure everything works, they take them in, call me couple of days later and this time I check them at the counter - and it's the same fucking thing again.

In the end they replaced both earphones for free while out of warranty but I lost so much time I'm seriously pissed with Apple still.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I've dealt with authorized service centre, which has replaced my MacBook Air motherboard due to a faulty NVMe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I just hope they returned it in working condition and if not, didn't play dumb and ask you to factory reset.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

When will people get it into their skulls that "cloud" == "someone else's computer you don't control".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

The same day AROS gets a 50% computer OS market share. So, probably never.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago

They. Are. Lying.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (5 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Perhaps a "syncing" issue could remove files from your computer before uploading (that still doesn't explain the claims of missing web documents, though).

If you hold shift while clicking on the Drive system tray/menu bar icon, you'll get a special debug UI with an option to "Recover from backups."

Google locked the issue thread on the Drive Community Forums at 170 replies before it was clear the problem was solved.

Taking away the space to diagnose the issue and communicate fixes adds to the sense that Google is more interested in PR damage control than helping users.

It also doesn't allow people to reply to the "solution" post, so it's hard to evaluate the fix's efficacy since Google shut down the easiest avenues for user feedback and support.

Drive isn't just a consumer product, it's also aimed a businesses looking for terabytes of file storage, with paid tiers that can be priced into the stratosphere.


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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

google is a uselesss piece of shit company. never met a decent google employee or director. chuck them all into hell for eternity.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

It's fixed because we said so!

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