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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

So here's the thing: remember facts don't care about your feelings? That is, and has always been, bullshit projection. Conservatives react by emotion just as often as, or even more than, liberals. So we're all pissed off most of the time.

On a surface level, liberals and conservatives are mostly in agreement on one thing: things are kind of bad. Rent is skyrocketing, and groceries are taking more and more of what little is left. The homeownership that was promised to our grandparents, an assumption of our parents, is for us a distant dream, at best. We're also waking up to the reality that retirement will no longer be a thing by the time we get to that age. These realizations are not giving a pleasant view of our future.

So economists can point to very real facts that demonstrate that Bidenomics is working, inflation is slowing, and the market is recovering. Well, fuck all that. I still end up scraping by every month on pocket change and prayers. The facts out of the White House feel like lies. I don't feel any better just because someone I don't trust tells me that things are getting better. I am more likely to feel that things are only getting worse, because that's been the trend for the past eight years.

In short, my feelings don't care about your facts.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's just not how statistics work. Your personal, anecdotal experience is completely irrelevant.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I've noticed that when conservatives talk about logic, it's a tell that whatever argument they're trying to make at that moment is almost certainly based entirely on their emotions.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

While I know Trump is full of shit, I don't get why articles are gloming on to this. The stock market was doing incredibly well before the 1929 crash that kicked off the great depression.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

"Trump rambles and makes up more shit"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

We already know that the #fascist #GOP & its adherents do not operate in consensual reality.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yet his followers will take his word on it and have no clue what the stockmarket is doing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Must be nice to own stocks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


During his third trip to Iowa this month, Donald Trump warned that if he was not elected president in 2024, the U.S. would see its economy plunge into a “1929”-era depression.

Trump, who accomplished the feat of becoming the first president since Herbert Hoover during the Great Depression to leave the country with fewer jobs by the end of his one-term presidency, claimed that the “Biden administration is running on the fumes of the great success of the Trump Administration.” He added, addressing his supporters: “Without us this thing would have crashed to levels never seen before, and if we’re not elected we’ll have a depression the likes of which I don’t believe anybody has ever seen… maybe 1929?”

Many economists have pointed to the former president’s disastrous leadership during the Covid-19 pandemic as having exacerbated the country’s economic downturn at the time.

According to data released in early December by the Labor Department, under the Biden administration, the U.S. economy added 199,000 jobs in November, and the unemployment rate fell to 3.7 percent.

Despite signs that the U.S. economy is getting stronger, Trump dug into the president and tasked supporters on Wednesday with naming “one thing” that has gotten better under Biden’s leadership (to which we ask, how long you got?)

During the ex-president’s first visit to Iowa, Trump declared that he’d swoop the blue states if Jesus himself “came down.” On his second return, he evaded questions on whether he would abuse power if he were re-elected president.


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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

As others have said the stock market isn't representative of the economy. The stock market rose prior to it's crash signaling the Great Depression.

That said, I obviously don't believe Trump has any way to know.

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