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Republicans slam broadband discounts for poor people, threaten to kill program::Thune, Cruz complain that $30 discounts go to people who "already had broadband."

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[–] [email protected] 153 points 8 months ago (3 children)

what a bunch of low life jerks.

they can give millions in subsidies direct to corporations, but a mild discount in internet services for poor people requires incredible, roadblock worthy proof of obvious numbers for zero reason. theyre just assholes.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 8 months ago

I would like to propose an alternative solution: Force broadband providers to offer low cost service to families that need it. Don't subsidize it, just force it.

Internet connections cost next to nothing to maintain. The telecoms can afford it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

they can give millions in subsidies direct to corporations

That's exactly why they're fighting it -- every dollar they give to poor people is a dollar less they can give to rich people.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

That's what they think, or at least that's what they want you to think. Every study has shown that every dollar you give to anyone below the 40th percentile returns more than a dollar to the economy. The lower on the totem pole, the more it grows the economy. The opposite is also true. For every dollar you give the top 10 percent, 70 cents or less goes back into the economy.

The more they give the poor, the richer they would get, but the money isn't the point. Cruelty is. They want to cause as much harm as they can get away with before we whip out the trebuchets and guillotines.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If there's one thing Republicans can't stand, it's helping the poor.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Especially those with unplanned pregnancy

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Excuse you those are gifts from God and future wage slaves!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's two fold for them, I'd bet money that they're also trying to disconnect the youth in some attempt to grow their dwindling youth base. Their dumb book bans don't work so well when kids can just hop on the Internet and get it anyways (and more)

Can't have kids learning all that "empathy" and "caring" indoctrination! /s

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 8 months ago (3 children)

As someone not from the USA I am convinced, after reading many news articles over the past decades, that people voting for the GOP are either evil or too dumb to make any kind of impactful decision.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago

There’s a reason they’ve been infiltrating school boards, banning books, and white washing history books. They can’t get elected if the electorate is educated and informed about the issues.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

A lot of it stems from insecurity and otherism.

They're on the losing side but want to be in denial about it. Those on the winning side behave like patronizing children, which only causes the losing side to want to spite them.

Really, the US is an extremely successful example of how to keep people divided and distracted so they can be easily exploited by their rulers.

This is the case on both sides. Democrats are only progressive until it fucks with their money. Then they become real conservative, real quick.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago

Never a missed opportunity to grind the poor into the dirt, am I right republicans? Oh, but they’ll lobby for billions (with a fucking B) to give away in government subsidies to AT&T and other broadband providers all the while abolishing Net Neutrality.

If you have any illusion to think republicans are helping you at all, look no further than their jaw dropping history in telecom policy.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Republicans literally exist to only make things worse.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So don't be like that, they also exist to get paid by their corporqte overlords and remove rights.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

You will find that was covered by the previous sentiment.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Internet should be treated as a utility, not a for-profit business who we need to give more government kickbacks to. Look how well that turned out in the past.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Exactly. It's a service. Service costs money. Pay for it with taxes

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

Republicans like helping Poor People like Jesus did!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Anyone else think republican politicians would be really bad at chess?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

They'd play chess like a pigeon would. Flipping over pieces and shitting all over the board, while having no clue what they are doing, nor caring about what they are doing.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Well, shitting on things without consequence is definitely their definition of freedom.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

So exactly how they govern.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Why do republicans hate poor people so much?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

They don't see you as people. It's just that simple.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Rich republicans: because they view them as damaged goods who only have themselves to blame, that are only fit for slave labor to profit from.

Poor republicans: ?? probably think that they'll become rich one day, unlike those other poor low life schmucks who deserve nothing because they're damaged goods who only have themselves to blame, that are only fit for slave labor.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

If you have the time, I recommend Adam Conover's podcast interview of Corey Robin about What Liberals Get Wrong about the Right. It answered a lot of questions like this for me.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

$30 would pay for my fibre entirely

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

$30 would cover the $27 of taxes and (mostly) fees for my phone and internet (business) bundle.

I have a "Deregulated Administration Fee" of $8.95.

Edit: It is 100/40 bonded VDSL2 for those curious. There is an upgrade available to 200/40 though. Good speeds for middle of nowhere, but that means only one wired provider.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Should be higher. $60/mo. tax credit for broadband plus $2,000 every 3 years for tech gear.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

That's more then I spend for my household on "tech gear" every 3 years, including cellular devices. I am far from any line that would qualify me for a program... seems excessive.

I agree with the bump to $60, $30 is a good subsidy like a decade + ago.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I thought there was a companion requirement that providers must offer a plan that is fully covered.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Republican members of Congress blasted a program that gives $30 monthly broadband discounts to people with low incomes, accusing the Federal Communications Commission of being "wasteful."

The lawmakers suggested in a letter to FCC Chairwoman Jessica Rosenworcel that they may try to block funding for the Affordable Connectivity Program (ACP), which is expected to run out of money in April 2024.

The letter questioned Rosenworcel's testimony at a recent House hearing in which she warned that 25 million households could lose Internet access if Congress doesn't renew the ACP discounts.

"At a hearing before the House Energy and Commerce Committee on November 30, 2023, you asserted—without evidence and contrary to the FCC's own data—that '25 million households' would be 'unplug[ged]…from the Internet' if Congress does not provide new funding for the ACP," the letter said.

As Congress considers the future of taxpayer broadband subsidies, we ask you to correct the hearing record and make public accurate information about the ACP."

Unfortunately, your testimony pushes "facts" about the ACP that are deeply misleading and have the potential to exacerbate the fiscal crisis without producing meaningful benefits to the American consumer.


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