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TAIPEI, Taiwan (AP) — China accused the United States of turning Taiwan into an “ammunition depot” after the White House announced a $345 million military aid package for Taipei, and the self-ruled island said Sunday it tracked six Chinese navy ships in waters off its shores.

China’s Taiwan Affairs Office issued a statement late Saturday opposing the military aid to Taiwan, which China claims as its own territory.

“No matter how much of the ordinary people’s taxpayer money the ... Taiwanese separatist forces spend, no matter how many U.S. weapons, it will not shake our resolve to solve the Taiwan problem. Or shake our firm will to realize the reunification of our motherland,” said Chen Binhua, a spokesperson for the Taiwan Affairs Office.

“Their actions are turning Taiwan into a powder keg and ammunition depot, aggravating the threat of war in the Taiwan Strait,” the statement said.

China’s People’s Liberation Army has increased its military maneuvers in recent years aimed at Taiwan, sending fighter jets and warships to circle the island.

On Sunday, Taiwan’s Ministry of National Defense said it tracked six Chinese navy ships near the island.

Taiwan’s ruling administration, led by the Democratic Progressive Party, has stepped up its weapons purchases from the U.S. as part of a deterrence strategy against a Chinese invasion.

China and Taiwan split amid civil war in 1949, and Taiwan has never been governed by China’s ruling Communist Party.

Unlike previous military purchases, the latest batch of aid is part of a presidential authority approved by the U.S. Congress last year to draw weapons from current U.S. military stockpiles — so Taiwan will not have to wait for military production and sales.

While Taiwan has purchased $19 billion worth of weaponry, much of it has yet to be delivered to Taiwan. Washington will send man-portable air defense systems, intelligence and surveillance capabilities, firearms and missiles to Taiwan.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The island is already unified, they very clearly reject the CCPs authoritarian, violent demands.

Fuck the CCP, Taiwan is a free country.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I was gonna say, loving the use of the word “unify”. I also feel like the AP could have editorialized just a bit at least for the headline and maybe gone with something more along the lines of “reclaim”.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Ah yes, giving military aid to Taiwan is turning it into a powder keg and aggravating the threat of war. Firing missile into the ocean all around Taiwan is just a calm and rational thing to do to help ease tensions in the region.

Fuck off CCP.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah Taiwan has had independence far too long for them to accept being swept into the Chinese system.

A lot of hypocritical trolling in this thread

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

And look what happened yo Hong Kong after "promises" anyway! A reasonable person would expect the same treatment or worse for Taiwan

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

They were never really “dependent” to begin with. It was a split, and Taiwan is what remains of the OG Chinese Government. They’re kind of MORE legit that the CCP.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Taiwan would never attack China, the only way a war between China and Taiwan happens is if China invades Taiwan.

China saying this increases the "risk" of war is nothing but doublespeak.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If anything decreases the risk of War as in it decreases the likelihood China will do anything.

Them complaining about it is actually a sign of that the determined is working.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Hey, CCP! You mean 'steal' the island.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

So "unify" is the new "rape and pillage"?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ask Putin how the "fuck around" is doing for his country?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They won’t do anything. The Chinese government is terrified by Taiwan. So sadly the Russians are the only ones who enter the „finding out“.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

So sadly the Russians are the only ones who enter the „finding out“.

Counterpoint: It's not sad that there isn't going to be a war, whether or not it might be humiliating to an authoritarian regime.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe all the dead Chinese soldiers will be a deterrent too them

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They have an overabundance of men thanks to their stupid one child policy. The easiest way to correct their population numbers is to start a war to kill a bunch of the excess men.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

China's population is actually in danger of the opposite extreme, that is, a population crash. They have a very large population currently, and probably will always be on the larger side, but the policy you mentioned, and the fact that it was continued longer than it had any utility, among other things, means that their birth rate is unsustainably low, in the long term, similarly to how Japan's somewhat famously is. Beyond the normal dangers going to war poses to a country, like retaliatory action and economic disruption, losing any sizable fraction of it's young labor force right before having a huge fraction of it's population enter retirement age would be to take a bad situation and make it much worse. While having a significantly higher number of men than women might mean that there is a population of men whos absence would not affect the fertility rate, those people still contribute to the pool of talent and labor in the country.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, you're talking about Youth Bulge Theory, a theory espoused by the US military to understand where conflicts will emerge and how to control them by killing off military aged males in those region through controlled conflicts.

You are projecting your death worship on people you consider "other". Again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No, I'm saying China has about 40 million surplus men who will never be able to marry and start their own families. These people are causing problems in China, This very situation has happened in Chinese history before, the Nian Rebellion, where surplus males joined the Nian gangs and started terrorizing the countryside.

Now, historically, every single country on earth has dealt with the problem of excess males by starting a war. You either lose and kill a bunch of men who could be a problem, or win and kill a bunch of enemy men, thus freeing up their wives and daughters to become part of your population, thus solving the excess male problem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Unify the island" says west Tawain. Should it read "Unity with the island?"

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the island country of Taiwan is already united, they don't want a CCP invasion.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If course they say that, they don't want aid going to Tiwan, so make people think it won't help. You can't rely on an opposing parties appraisal of what it's response is going to be, since they have massive insensitive to bluff.

Edit: here's the population pyramid, doesn't look very pyramidal

China population over time

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

doesn’t look very pyramidal

What it says to me is "China has a decade or so left before they won't have the manpower to attempt an invasion".

That to me, is more worrying than reassuring.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Big yikes on that pyramid. Please could you share where you got it from?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

age old fight over land

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Get me Dennis Reynolds! We need to get the gang on this “Taiwan Problem.”