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Moscow is building up its weapons stockpiles much faster than Nato allies had anticipated, creating a sense of urgency, the general said

Norway must ramp up defence spending in the face of a potential war with Russia within three years, the country’s armed forces chief has warned.

General Eirik Kristoffersen said in an interview with Dagbladet, a Norwegian newspaper, that time was running out to build up the nation’s defences in the face of an increasingly unpredictable Russia.

“The current window of opportunity will remain open for a year or two, perhaps three, which is when we will have to invest even more in our defence,” Gen Kristoffersen said in the interview, published on Sunday.

“We do not know what will become of Russia in three years. We need to prepare a strong national defence to be able to meet an uncertain and unpredictable world,” he added.

The Norwegian general said Moscow was building up its weapons stockpiles much faster than Nato allies had anticipated, adding to the sense of urgency.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Damn, the Russian trolls are really trying today huh. I've seen them in multiple threads making the same damned points.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

Ironically demonstrating why the EU needs to invest more in defences. Cyber and physical

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Russia wants NATO and other nations to feel that they could invade so the countries will start focusing on thier own defensive positions and stop giving aod to Ukraine. Expect to see a LOT of fake news and propaganda about this.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not to say they're NOT doing this, but it would be very counterproductive. If you think Russia might attack you, the cheapest option is to arm Ukraine. You get to fight Russia and you only pay materiel costs not personnel. A lot more bang for the buck. Not to mention that by arming Ukraine you're also coalition building with every other country that's doing the same. Which means if Russia does attack you, you can be quite confident that you will also be armed if not directly supported due to the escalation.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The west has been twiddling their fucking thumbs since the invasion started and the only reason they did things in the first place is because people had to twist their representatives arms. While Russia may not invade Norway, I think there is a huge probability of them trying to take a bite out of Estonia, Latvia or Lithuania.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (4 children)

There is quite literally no chance of this. If it happens, I'll buy you a year's worth of beer.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Less likely with a Democrat president, but if a Republican (especially Trump) gets back in power I can see them deciding not to support NATO.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Man, I wish I was still an alcoholic

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's what everyone said about them invading Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Except that's not true, and Russia had precedent already from 2014. Oh and also Ukraine is not in NATO or the EU. So not really that surprising that Russia tried something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You don't think he's willing to test the non-existent resolve of the EU defensive pact if America doesn't join the wars?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Nope. Ukraine was a lone wolf and Putin thought it'd be easy pickings (though I'm sure he realized pretty soon how much he fucked up), but no way he's going up against nations that are part of actual defensive pacts.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Why would Russia do that? What material, factual reasons do you have for them to do it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Russia has repeatedly shown itself to have imperialist ambitions. Just ask Georgia and Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lul

"Hitler has promised the chancellor that he will be content with the Sudentenland."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_irredentism

[–] [email protected] -5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wtf does that have to do with anything? You think Putin and the current Russian government, who are staunch anti-communist and have repeatedly disavowed the USSR are…? Like what is the MATERIAL analysis here? You are just talking about your vibes and ideology!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Duuur what does Putin wanting to conquer former Russian Empire and Soviet holdings have to do with him wanting to conquer former Russian Empire and Soviet holdings duuuurrrr I'm surely making an honest argument!

If I say the Marxist buzzwords despite ignoring all their actual meanings people will agree with me!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

It's worth remembering that officials say one thing in the media and do another in reality. It's all part of the information war.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think the west is pretty concerned in not losing elections to Russia - intervened parties... I love democracies and everything, but they are proving to be extremely weak with lunatics like Putin roaming the streets.

I think that we need to build better ways of understanding between each other. Polarization is the real killer of democracy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Polarization is the real killer of democracy.

Well that..... And the fact that globalized capital isn't particularly beholden to the interest of individual nation states.

The west could utilize their economic hegemony to truly starve the Russian war machine if they wanted, but that would require leveraging their economic trade status with countries like India and China and would come with a large disruption of capital.

The biggest flaw in modern democratic states is fairly uniform in nature. Instead of corporations being beholden to their governments, governments are beholden to their corporations.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Norway has absolute Chadwicks in the form of Finland and. Sweden as buffers.

Finland has experience in kicking Soviet ass.

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