Nuclear is extremely expensive to build and takes a long time, is this truly wise for a country in the middle of an active war?
this post was submitted on 25 Jan 2024
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~10 years IIRC, however maybe they figure that by the time they are up and running that the war will be over and they can gain more indepandance from relying on other countries that may stab them in the front?
But you are right its a costly undertaking while they are also actively asking for aid in a war.
Well they either start it now or start it when the war is over. It might take a long time but it will take longer if they wait. Plus they need jobs for a lot of people to stay i imagine so the money will be well spent.
I think this is s good idea, only for the fact Russia is not allowed to target it. Energy is also always an excellent source of income. On top of all of that if you do nothing during the war your economy will stagnate.
I think the point is it's much easier to harden NPP against some types of strikes than, say, PV farm
and there's all that ban on strikes on NPPs which seems to be respected even now
Well, than one PV farm. Decentralization is a point in renewables.
cluster munitions are plentiful and just a few would damage a farm heavily
Or you could use that munition to slightly damage and occupy a nuclear power plant. ;-)
but you have to get there first. rocket with cluster warhead can fly for 100s of kilometers
A plane or helicopter too, though.
one is significantly easier to pull off than the other, that's my point
And where do they get the Uran from? China? Russia?
Ukraine is the #1 producer of Uranium in Europe.
They're probably still in the planning stages at this point
for a country in the middle of an active war?
that was blackmailed with one a few months ago.
By the time the price or risk is prohibitive, there will probably be peace and they will receive a lot of reconstruction aid. They don't have to worry about the price if they don't have to pay it.
Reconstruction aid isn't a donation though, they will have to pay it back over time
At least on paper. I suspect that is too optimistic for a country with so much corruption and of interest to the west, but let's hope for the best.
Its not going to be fast but in comparison the UK made its last payment on its WWII loans in 2006 so its not expected to be a fast process
I bet they still construct it much faster than the constantly delayed Hinkley Point C in the UK
Interestingly this has been in the works for almost a decade. Lots of good information here
Some good bits:
- Ukraine is heavily dependent on nuclear energy – it has 15 reactors generating about half of its electricity.
- Ukraine had been receiving most of its nuclear services and nuclear fuel from Russia, but is reducing this dependence. In June 2022 an agreement was signed with Westinghouse that will see the company provide all fuel for the Ukrainian fleet.
- In 2021 Westinghouse was contracted to finish building a new reactor at Khmelnitsky using AP1000 components from an aborted US project.
- The government is looking to the West for both technology and investment in its nuclear plants. An agreement to build nine AP1000 reactors at established sites has been signed with Westinghouse.
Seeing as 6 of Ukraine's largest reactors are under Russian control in Zaporozhye, and that a good chunk of Ukraine's national revenue comes from the export of electricity to Europe, the need to get more capacity online is apparent.
More energy is good!