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[–] [email protected] 60 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Something something rm -fr / to remove the french language pack

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago (3 children)

and rm -rf removes only the République française language pack

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

other ""french"" species are inferior and don't deserve mention

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

honestly I’ve had the best luck when I use the French Riviera version to delete my hard drive:

rm -Riv /

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Also you don't want to preserve the word roots of it so you have to add --no-preserve-root

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 6 months ago (1 children)

the people who troll or make fun of linux beginners are the same people who wonder every year why desktop linux isn't more mainstream

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

And 80% of these are on Lemmy, I mean put up a question or comment that how Linux is not helpful is simple tasks such as giving permissions to program without using command prompt , will get you downvotes/ you are idiot comments heavily.

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[–] TxzK 48 points 6 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Now that's a weird way you like oral sex...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Do you not use the "ampersand" when "dining at the Y"? Prude. It's perfectly safe with the proper preparation. Don't believe the rumors, they've got all the signs of a moral panic.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

Classic fork bomb

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

shoutout to @[email protected] who (i believe?) created this fork bomb :)

there is a great in-depth writeup about fork bombs in general, and this one specifically, here.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (7 children)

Yeah this is the is the biggest reason I dislike Linux forums in a broad sense. Snobby elitist pricks.

Don’t even get me started on arch Linux forums… my favorite is when someone says is something like “this is super fucking simple you just follow this guide: [insert wiki link that is basically a scientific dissertation on the history of arch]

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

I also feel like a lot of those people are there just to be pricks. I don't think they really know much at all so their input was unwarranted in the first place.

The arch wiki is a very good resource and I use it for all Linux distros. But like most repositories of its kind, it gives you the how and not the why.

That's what most people want from another person, they ask "how" but I think they mean "why".

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think the most annoying people in Forums:

"Well I use Debian, and I use only native packages! I update manually because I need to resolve those dependency problems! Go to hell with your Flatpaks and telemitry, I want freedom! Also I will never use Wayland because Mate doesn't support it"

People thinking they can give advice, while they are clearly using outdated software, not scaleable maintenance effords, etc.

I had this in the KDE forum. Literally 2 dudes telling me no system could auto update, while my system does, today.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

people hating on flatpak is a clear indicator of people who don't prioritize an easily useful system.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

Why would you tell people to run that command? You're a bad person.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Also it's just wrong advice, since you explicitly need --no-preserve-root for it to work... /s

Jokes aside, please don't troll anyone with things, that can have severe consequences. Yes, they should have a backup. Yes, they should know how to restore from it. Yes, they should have tested it prior. Yes, you shouldn't blindly trust people online.

But even then: Assuming my backup works and I can easily revert the damage. Maybe I need to complete an assignment until tomorrow and just lost 1-2 hours because my PC was busy doing the restore? There's always a high chance of collateral damage

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

if one would fall for this, do you really think that they know how to backup and restore backups?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

Sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/* will fix your disk?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Some people are really bad at empathy. They don't actually, like, imagine the pain and confusion in the other person if they did unwittingly damage their computer. They're thoughtless. That's a lot of words to say "They're kind of stupid."

And some people do imagine the pain of the victim, and do it anyway. Those people should probably be on a watch list before they start killing small animals or shooting up a school.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

It removes the french languagepack

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Having moderated forums back in the day, I can answer to some of that motivation.

First, some people are just bullies. A sense of tribalism forms around bullies, who feel the need to act out and repeat the abuses they have endured. Hazing stems from this, too. Cruelty masked as "you should know better," advice. Given too late.

Some have a smug sense of superiority, and want to keep it that way. Less smart people means they stay king of the mountain. Others are scared their own lack of knowledge will cripple them if they don't keep the potential competition down. Insecurities drown out any sense of empathy.

Some people hate themselves so they punish others in retaliation. Like, trying to erase past cringe by making others hurt to even the score.

A few are sick of "the same fucking newbie questions again and again and again," but still hang out in newbie forums for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I asked for help on the Discord server of LinuxServer.io and they were literally talking shit about me to each other while I was in the chat because I didn't understand their utter garbage documentation for a Docker I was having trouble with, even with a CS degree.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

discord 🗿

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I trolled myself by "learning" that I could delete all files in a directory, including hidden files, with rm -rf ./*. The mistake being that I (more than once...) accidentally put a space between the . and /.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (2 children)

And that's why every rm command should start life as an ls command and then change the command and options while not touching the target directory. Takes a little longer, but saves so much hassle when you do fuck up.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

This is the best advice in the whole thread.

Check what you're doing before you do it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Rm was updated to actually log a warning in the -rf / cases, so that's less likely to happen anymore. Still not a bad habit to use ls though

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

Tech forums in any sense.

If you're tired of seeing the same questions, why are you here? You can just ignore them. But treating a newbie like an idiot for not knowing better just discourages people from getting into your thing and keeps you from meeting cool new people.

ESPECIALLY because a lot of these questions come from kids that literally haven't had the chance to learn better yet. Just kindly point them where they need to go. It takes just as much time as telling them off.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (8 children)

YoU sHoUlD tRy GoOgLe NeXt TiMe...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

My favorite thing in the world is when the top search result on Google leads to a post from someone telling me to use Google.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Ok now type "touch /this"

And then hum the famous M C Hammer song.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (4 children)

that being said.. what's a good website i can at least go to and learn some linux basics and progress to more advanced stuff? i'd at least want to check that out before i start bugging people..

i had the opportunity to take a class back in college but 18 yr old me couldn't handle a 7am class and know-it-alls in the back always interrupting the teacher and trying to show off in class..

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The best places I learned from were installing gentoo in a vm and separately linux from scratch for the more advanced stuff. Though I learn more from doing than reading personally

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

There is certainly a lack of perspective and empathy between those who spend their time concentrated on computer maintenance and those others who must perform other important tasks in their lives.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Lmao fork bomb

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Either that or you insult them for not knowing the answer already, tell them to google it (then why does this forum exist?) or get mad because they did know that their question had already been answered in a forum post in 2019.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Sometimes it's better to daunt them first with this piece.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Before you ask a question, you must read the 10 page essay on how to ask questions. Asking questions is serious business after all, we can't have people doing it incorrectly.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Written in a typical rude condescending hacker speak.

Let's call it for what it is - it's more of a frustration vent than a guide. And this approach will certainly not make these people read through.

There are always way more polite ways to put it, like:

"Most of the questions you face about software are replied to by unpaid volunteers taking spare time to help you - thereby, the more effort you'll put into properly filing the issue, the quicker you'll get a response. Here are main points that we may need in order to help with your problem, and a way to obtain all information required"

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago
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