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[-] [email protected] 91 points 5 months ago

Why give them unique shapes in the legend and then proceed to NOT use them in the actual diagram? ,`:•|

[-] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

I bow to your superior emoticon use :o

[-] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Lol I never noticed that

[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Because someone really dislikes colour blind people :P

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[-] [email protected] 42 points 5 months ago

I'm one of those heathens that read through for the first time in publication order. The ancient civilization side trips were a bit disorienting at first but I managed.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

I just finished The Last Continent next up is Carpe Jugulum

[-] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

I’m considering that for my next read through.

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

You can do whatever I think, either read them by series (rincewind, witches, city guard, etc.) or by publishing order, starting with the colour of magic.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

There's a lot of opinions on this. I found Small Gods to be a good jumping in place because it's a stand alone book and late enough that he had found the tone he wanted for the series. But a lot of other people recommend picking a subseries and starting with the first book there. The Vimes books are very popular so a lot of people recommend Guards, Guards as a starting point.

The reason a lot of people don't recommend publishing order is that the first two books are written in a very different style to the later ones. They're pretty straight parodies of heroic fantasy. But Pratchett becomes so much more later.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Witches look self-contained. For the rest, pick a group and read up to before the series crossover, then proceed to the next series's starting book

[-] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Witches aren’t bad to start it’s where I did. But I recommend ending with Tiffany Aching. The shepherds crown wasn’t intended to be the final book, he was writing until he died and would’ve kept going if he could’ve, but it is the perfect final book.

I’d say start with Rincewind, Witches, or Death. City Watch is good too but it’ll hit you hard with Industrial Revolution stuff and is very much the story of the world progressing as people try to deal with it.

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[-] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

I was the weird one and started with The Color of Magic and didn't regret it. Weird Pratchett advised to skip 2 of his own books.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

I think starting with Color of Magic is just fine, IF you know and enjoy classic heroic fantasy. Otherwise it's very hard to enjoy without understanding what tropes it's mocking.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

They’re very different from the rest so it makes sense. IMO you’ve really got 4 eras: The first two, the era where he’s got an idea of what he wants but it’s still forming and being explored (pre industrial, lots of new stuff, characters change a lot as he explores them), his stride (longer series, less satirical, beginning to display his feelings on people as a whole), and then the embuggerance books (frustrated and powerful stories that leave very little of himself held back). They definitely bleed into each other, but there’s a reason Snuff feels a lot more like I Shall Wear Midnight in tone than it does to Guards Guards.

I think what he’s really saying is “don’t start with the books that came with an assumption that this was a one off parody, start where it’s being written as a series meant to evolve, then when you have a feel for it go read them”

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[-] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago

Don't sleep on Small Gods, it's incredibly good.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

my personal favorite after decades of dedicated fandom, and self-contained enough that it's one I recommend everyone start with.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

That was the first one I read, and it got me hooked. Very good stand alone book with minimal references to the rest of the series.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

Holy crap the Watch series are so good.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

It's good right up until the last two books or so (thinking specifically of Snuff, but also Raising Steam here), where Vimes becomes a complete parody of himself, and there is also a large drop in quality.

Maybe Pratchett's disease had something to do with it.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

raising steam was disjointed and its second half felt like a farewell to the discworld. and yeah, snuff is just a rambling mess.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

Sir Terry Pratchett.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

Did Pratchett really recommend starting with sourcery? I've been stumped for years on where to start

[-] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

I think pterry was personally fond of Rincewind as a character, which may have influenced this recommendation.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

I've kinda been wanting to get into the disc world books for awhile but fuck, this looks intimidating.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

Meh, read 'em in order. I was all but done with the series when I saw posts like this.

You can read them any which way you like. I started with Hogfather because it sounded wild. If you go in order you catch more of the jokes and characters from the previous books.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

The opposite. There's no need to read all of them. Each is self contained. So this amount just means you have a lot more to consume of you liked them

[-] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Not only is each self-contained, but I have found that each "sub-series"- if I can call them that- has a different vibe from the other, and are oftentimes entirely unrelated. So it's not like you're missing out on part of the story you were reading in Mort and Reaper Man by not reading a Rincewind book. Not many people actually read every book anyway.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

Basically, while all of the novels take place in the discworld, different books in the series focus on different groups of characters, making it so that there are different subseries within the series. A lot of people choose to read the subseries in order instead of going through the books in publication order. This is also because the first two books, while not bad, have a very different tone from the later books. They're kind of straight parodies of heroic fantasy rather than being more focused on the unique setting and characters within the discworld.

So most people would recommend starting with one of the major subseries. The city watch books start with Guards Guards (this is probably the most popular subseries). The witches start with Equal Rites. Death starts with Mort. And Rincewind starts with The Color of Magic. Or you could pick one of the stand alone books to get a taste of Pratchett's style without continuity. Small Gods is probably the best choice for this IMO.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

I appreciate your explanation and recommendation. Just wanted to second how incredibly confusing this guide is. According to you, starting with Small Gods is a good place. But in this "guide" that's the 8th row, 3rd column, and not colored as a starter book.

This guide seems more fit for someone who's already read the books, rather than being useful for someone looking as a place to start.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I agree that this guide isn't very easy to follow. It also seems to be attempting to show additional subseries like "industrial revolution", which is sort of an ongoing theme across different subseries but not necessarily something that stands on its own (I would consider Moving Pictures or The Truth more standalone books). Or the history monks that pop up in several scattered books but aren't exactly major characters for the most part. That said, there's not exactly a wrong place to start so long as you're willing to give the first few books a little leeway, somewhat like the first season of a longer TV show.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Funny how you made this post now. I decided to get into Discworld very recently and finished Mort just the day before.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Don’t kill me but I finally started reading Discworld. I saw this image and after reading some posts I ended up reading Guards! Guards! It was great and can’t wait to read another

[-] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Does reading this count as reading one of the books

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I asked Pratchett's ghost. He said it didn't matter.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Me: fuck your reading order - I read "the fifth elephant" as my first book.

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

I JUST bought the books on humble!

This is great.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This one?

https://www.humblebundle.com/books/terry-pratchetts-discworld-harpercollins-books

Sad it doesn't have quite all of them.

Hmm looks like it's just missing Raising Steam?

And it looks like it's through kobo.com? Do you just get the files or have to use their site/app?

Edit: looks like these books can only be downloaded as .ascm files. DRM-managed adobe files. Very lame.

Welp I just burned $18 as I'm absolutely not going to use Adobe Digital Editions or the Kobo app to read books. Humble's "Use on Any Device" is an absolute lie.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Humble gives you a code to use on kobo.com

Which isn't ideal, but for the price....

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Have you tried using Calibre + the appropriate plugin to get them into a format your reader can handle?

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I grabbed the humble book bundle a while ago, so this will be really useful. Thanks.

Edit: what category are the purple books?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Young Adult.

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