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[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 minutes ago

Ah, that makes sense. Of course everyone's jumping on the train but takes daily shootings in the US as granted.

 

Yesterday a random article popped up in my feed about authorities supposedly shutting down a grave after a car attack. Didn't think too much of it, but today I got another one talking about how it's a Chinese tendency to cope with denial referring to 'deadly attacks' (wow racist much?)

given that my youtube page isn't flooded with this junk it's safe to assume everyone will forget about this in a week, if they even heard of it, but what's this whole thing about?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

code geass euphie speech vibes

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

I embrace all the new humor. (I predict hexbear will have a struggle session over the use of the word 'sigma' and the implications of baby gronk rizzing up livvy dunne like kai cenat)

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So... they hate the republicans for what they'll do to people so they want to punish those people by doing things republicans want to do to them? What level of football hooligan politics is this?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Don't know about you guys but I'm writing in Funny Valentine.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Sometimes I see statements on the internet that in China "2% of all the people own 98% of the wealth" (uncited stat of course), I wonder what they'd think of this.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Except a certain half of it between 1949 and 1989, of course.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Nice economy you have there. Would be a shame if someone put some sanctions through it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

Same with racism stuff: black people can be racist too!!111!!! / WhY cAn'T tAkE a JoKe????

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

I have an asexual friend who constantly makes diddy jokes so I think you're good in that regard

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Congratulations!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

$1.80 per meal is about 12.6 Yuan which is honestly a pretty normal lower range for food products in China, adjusted for wages it's closer to US prices but still lower.

 

um guys is this freddy fazbear ur ur ur ur ur ur ur ur ur (help I'm becoming kirby)

 
 

Currently in China, my vpn actually worked for once and I was looking to join, but it keeps saying unable to connect. Is the server still up?

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Chinese Ultras (lemmygrad.ml)
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Since I'm currently in China I've been randomly browsing bilibili and under certain videos I have been noticing a certain insufferable group of ultras somehow even worse than (what I've seen of) western ones, who can obviously afford a device and internet yet claim to care for the poor oppressed masses and talk about how capital is destroying people's wills to live and stuff, and continuously use the term 'downtrodden masses'. One even said that modern society was just like in Lao She's Teahouse (where a lady had to sell her child to survive), and shifted the goalposts when asked about this by saying 'muh abductions!111!11!!

What I would like to know is, who are these people? Why are they like this? Given that most have obviously not experienced for themselves the massive improvement in quality of life between the 2000s and today, are they mostly too young and have too much free time, or are they petty bourgeoisie who also have too much free time? Am I looking at them the wrong way?

Would appreciate insights from those more knowledgeable than me, thanks.

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cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/5103306

Most people in the west probably don't know this, but China actually 'participated' in WW1! But as a backwards country with two governments at this time, why did they do so? Why did they align with the Americans, when Germany had influence within the country? Did China receive any benefits from becoming a victor? Today I'll answer these questions and more.

In 1914 China had promised to stay neutral in WW1. Before this point, China had only lost in wars against imperial powers, and few desired to take part in another potentially disastrous war. Besides, many warlords themselves held territory in China, and few would have left their holdings to die in europe when potential competitors could simply occupy their territory. In addition, different powerful warlords were backed by foreign powers from both sides, so there was little desire to participate in the global war at the time.

Germany, however, supported Zhang Xun, who attempted to revive the Qing dynasty, gambling that he would be able to create a German-aligned Chinese monarchy, even providing him with weapons. But Zhang Xun held little military power compared to other warlords, and by easily defeating him Japan-backed Duan Qirui could now call himself the defender of democracy. He reinstated the powerless president, Li Yuanhong, but he himself was appointed as leader of the cabinet. While the cabinet seemed to be engaged in fierce conflict with the President, in reality Li was pretty much alone in his struggle and was always at a massive disadvantage, despite his backing by the US. Primarily this was because Duan had the full power of the Wan clique behind him, while Li had few if any armies of his own.

The Americans wished for China to join the war on their side, promising to renegotiate some unequal treaties, and Li gladly agreed. Yet the Japanese, supporting Duan, soon began urging Duan to join the war too, seeking to secure what Yuan had promised them in the 21 lines. Seeing the Japanese support China's entrance to the war, the US changed its tune and ordered Li to oppose the war.

Of course, this opposition could not be held for long, and Duan used German submarines sinking a ship carrying Chinese passengers as an excuse to cut off all ties with Germany, then declare war.

Despite declaring war, China never sent any troops to Europe, instead providing the entente with over 140000 laborers to aid the allies in constructing works, clearing mines, and other dangerous jobs. In the end, Germany was defeated, eliminating its influence in China, and many hoped that all German interests in China, such as the entire province of Shandong, could be returned to China. But things would not be so easy...

originally wanted to write a part 2 to my last post but too many things happened, so I'm going event by event here. Next post: the Treaty of Versailles and the 5-4 movement.\

https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E5%8C%97%E6%B4%8B%E5%86%9B%E9%98%80%E5%8F%B2/6241211

source this book. You can get it for about 50 yuan and autotranslate it with that camera app or something.

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1AG4y1N78P/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

also this video from Soviet Monitor who is a platform verified expert on the warlord era.

 

Most people in the west probably don't know this, but China actually 'participated' in WW1! But as a backwards country with two governments at this time, why did they do so? Why did they align with the Americans, when Germany had influence within the country? Did China receive any benefits from becoming a victor? Today I'll answer these questions and more.

In 1914 China had promised to stay neutral in WW1. Before this point, China had only lost in wars against imperial powers, and few desired to take part in another potentially disastrous war. Besides, many warlords themselves held territory in China, and few would have left their holdings to die in europe when potential competitors could simply occupy their territory. In addition, different powerful warlords were backed by foreign powers from both sides, so there was little desire to participate in the global war at the time.

Germany, however, supported Zhang Xun, who attempted to revive the Qing dynasty, gambling that he would be able to create a German-aligned Chinese monarchy, even providing him with weapons. But Zhang Xun held little military power compared to other warlords, and by easily defeating him Japan-backed Duan Qirui could now call himself the defender of democracy. He reinstated the powerless president, Li Yuanhong, but he himself was appointed as leader of the cabinet. While the cabinet seemed to be engaged in fierce conflict with the President, in reality Li was pretty much alone in his struggle and was always at a massive disadvantage, despite his backing by the US. Primarily this was because Duan had the full power of the Wan clique behind him, while Li had few if any armies of his own.

The Americans wished for China to join the war on their side, promising to renegotiate some unequal treaties, and Li gladly agreed. Yet the Japanese, supporting Duan, soon began urging Duan to join the war too, seeking to secure what Yuan had promised them in the 21 lines. Seeing the Japanese support China's entrance to the war, the US changed its tune and ordered Li to oppose the war.

Of course, this opposition could not be held for long, and Duan used German submarines sinking a ship carrying Chinese passengers as an excuse to cut off all ties with Germany, then declare war.

Despite declaring war, China never sent any troops to Europe, instead providing the entente with over 140000 laborers to aid the allies in constructing works, clearing mines, and other dangerous jobs. In the end, Germany was defeated, eliminating its influence in China, and many hoped that all German interests in China, such as the entire province of Qingdao, could be returned to China. But things would not be so easy...

originally wanted to write a part 2 to my last post but too many things happened, so I'm going event by event here. Next post: the Treaty of Versailles and the 5-4 movement.

 

Many of you probably know a little bit about the history of early modern China---the fall of the Qing dynasty, the civil war, and the foundation of today's China. Yet there's more to the story of China's path to socialism.

Chinese warlords may be a familiar term for some, and for me as well, yet for the longest time I only knew that they existed, not much about who they were, or what they did. A while ago I finally decided to pick up a book written by Lai Xinxia on this period of history. He is a very reliable scholar---after participating in the Chinese revolution he was assigned to sorting the archives of the Beiyang era, and over fifty years gradually improved his draft until publishing the final edition of his book, "History of the Beiyang Warlords", in 2004. I have made a summary of it here to educate more people, something I have not spent as much time doing as I should have.

First, a definition. The Chinese term for a single warlord group is 系, which can translate to system, line, etc. The generally accepted english translation for this is 'clique', which I will use here. The english translations for the clique names seem to be based on location (province names) rather than abbreviations commonly used in Chinese. I will be using the Chinese versions here since I'm too lazy to find the english translations for all of them.

After the opium wars, many Qing officials realized the importance of self-strengthening and creating a modern army. Li Hongzhan, one of the many han officials who rose to prominence in the last years of the Qing empire, created his own army, the Xiangjun, with modern equipment and training methods. Eventually this unit proved instrumental in defeating the Taiping rebellion, and for a time there was hope within the empire that expanding the 'new army' would lead to the empire being able to resist foreigners and establish its sovereignty. The Empire also created two foreign affairs departments, Beiyang (north sea) and Nanyang (south sea) respectively. As an important Beiyang civil servant, Li Hongzhang was the forerunner of the powerful warlords who would come to control vast portions of China in the first few decades of the coming century.

Yet without changing society, the new armies soon fell to corruption, and by the time Japan declared the Jiawu war the Beiyang Fleet, a modernized fleet the Qing government had established, was largely corrupted, ineffectual, and quickly defeated by Japan despite strong patriotism and determined resistance by patriotic soldiers and officers alike.

Yuan Shikai was at this time only a minor officer, who at some point was stationed in Korea. Despite a minor incident in which he was reported to the government, many praised his effective training of his own army, with some westerners remarking that China would be saved if they had more units like his. Yet during the invasion of China by the eight powers, instead of going into battle he decided to withdraw to preserve his own strength, with the result that he took almost no losses while his sister units of the new army were completely crushed. After the ordeal, he then escorted Cixi back to the forbidden city, and won the affection of many in government with this action. One thing to note is that in 1895 Yuan Shikai began conducting military drills in Xiaozhan (little station) near Beijing, which many scholars consider to be the beginning of the Beiyang era.

In 1911 the Xinhai revolution erupted and the imperial system which had existed in China for millennia was overthrown. While this was a bourgeoisie revolution, it nonetheless pushed history forward greatly in China. Yet at this point many of the revolutionaries were politically naive, including Sun Zhongshan, the leader of the new Republic of China, and believed that their country could not succeed without existing figures of authority in government. This, combined with Sun's own lack of political experience, led to the new government electing Yuan Shikai as its first official president. The Tongmenghui, Sun's revolutionary party, decided to engage in parliamentary politics, and slowly began to lose its revolutionary characteristic.

Yuan was not content with merely being president and being constrained by the majority-tongmenghui (which around this time had rebranded itself as the Guomindang, 'party of the national people') parliament. So after a few years of rule and forcing through laws that increasingly gave him power, he finally declared himself emperor of the Chinese Empire and disbanded parliament. Before this, he had also secretly signed a humiliating treaty with Japan to win support secretly in 1915. This will become important later...

Yuan's move was met with opposition from almost everyone in China, even including monarchists, who wanted the former Qing empire on the throne. His own subjects were also unhappy, as their potential position as Yuan's successor was now only available to his children. After a few short months Yuan died from sickness, and democracy returned. Yet...

During Yuan's monarchy, Sun Zhongshan had advocated for a Second Revolution. Working in the south and gathering the support of revolutionaries and local warlords, he managed to establish a southern government. Yet he controlled very few armies himself, with only a few fleets in the navy supporting him. Most of the armies fighting for the southern republic were warlords who only opposed Yuan for their own gain and cared little for progress in China.

In the North, after Yuan's death splits began to appear in the previously cohesive Beiyang bloc. The Wan clique, led by Duan Qirui, and the Zhi clique, lead by Feng Guozhang. While Duan advocated for using force to unify China and defeat the southern government, Feng wanted a peaceful reunification, more because he was opposed to Duan than any other reason. To resolve their conflict, they appointed a third party, Li Yuanhong to take on the role of the president of China.

At this point, Zhang Xun, a staunch monarchist, led his army into Beijing with the pretext of mediating a negotiation between the Wan and Zhi cliques. Instead, he seized power with his 'pigtail army' and promptly reestablished the Qing empire, with the child emperor Puyi (who had been treated well and allowed to stay in the forbidden city by the revolutionaries) as its leader.

Of course this did not last long, with all the Beiyang warlords coming to oppose him. Duan Qirui gave himself the title of creating democarcy three times with his defeating of Zhang Xun, and the Wan clique at this point became the dominant player on the Beiyang stage. Yet the country was still divided into north and south, and tensions between the two cliques were growing more heated by the day.

(part 1 concluded)

 

After half a year... it's finally done. I'm working on something else original now, with a much larger scale, more detail. I might just give up on a JR sequel altogether. But it was still fun, writing it. To be honest I'd have liked it better if it magically became popular and people interacted with it more, but I'm happy with how it turned out.

 

Preface: this is not white apologia, I am not white, I am a pure asiatic mongoloid barbarian. With that being said----

There seems to be a sentiment that is largely a holdover from the liberal beliefs about 'bad apples' in our gene pool or whatever. Some people seem to think that we could solve all our problems by not allowing these bad apples to have children. It seems pretty straightforward, right? Parents pass traits to their offspring, you get rid of the bad parents, and you won't have the offspring having bad traits.

Well.... aside from that being borderline eugenics, it's also bullshit. Not completely bullshit, but pretty much bullshit.

AS FAR AS WE KNOW, BELIEFS ARE NOT HERITABLE. This means that if your parents were bloodthirsty fascists, you are not necessarily a bloodthirsty fascist. Heritable traits are generally much simpler (and by simpler I mean comparatively simpler--- even things like eye color needs hundreds of genes, each thousands of bases long, to be coordinated) than behavioral traits. Which means, aside from a few very, very basic instincts OUR BELIEFS ARE LEARNED AND NOT INHERITED FROM OUR PARENTS. While parents can influence your beliefs heavily as an environmental factor they don't just magically give you ideas when you're born.

So there. It feels good to want to murder bad people but just know that until we fundamentally restructure society, killing them will just be like trying to fill up a river by draining it with a sponge.

 
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