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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I can't see any Dems voting for the guy who fucked Biden's agenda

Really? Because all of the people I've ever seen defending him were Democrats claiming that he was the least awful senator West Virginia would ever vote for.

Hell, even Biden himself gave Manchin the pen used to sign what was left of one of the bills after he'd hollowed out the carcass!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It sounds like you're deliberately ignoring that there's a difference between actually liking him and being realistic that no other Dem is going to the Senate from a state where Donald wins by 39 points.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, because it's all just a binary were people vote by party only!

West Virginia is an extremely poor state, has the worst health of any state, is generally pretty pro-union and loves a political dynasty.

Joe Manchin is the nephew of a prominent WV politician, in favor of the ACA and pretty good at pretending to care about miners. THAT'S why he kept winning in a supposedly deep red state.

If we find a good progressive candidate who ACTUALLY cares about poor people and labor rights, is in favor of Medicare for All, and has a relative who used to be State Treasurer or something, that candidate would be able to win in West Virginia WITHOUT being a corrupt conservative ass.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

In 2012 Mittens won WV by 27 points. Tell us more about how these ultra progressive union lovers will quit voting for Bain Capital guys as soon as the perfect socialist candidate comes along.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

I don’t know much about West Virginia, except that most of the people running it still havedeep political ties to the Hatfields/McCoys feud. I handled litigated coal miner’s lung insurance cases for a while, and that came up again and again, to the point that that our local legal manager would monitor the family ties of local defense firms and judges.

I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s really what got manchin elected, but it’s also something that could work for lots of potential candidates

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

He is the least awful Senator WV will vote for. I guarantee you the next guy who sits in that seat will be an utter, abject shithead with Confederate and/or Nazi flags on his walls and a bible dogeared to all the parts that hates gays and advocates death to non-believers, with the pages that say love thy neighbours untouched and unstained because the shithead never opened his bible up to those pages because those are all liberal crap.