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Did we even watch the same debate? Trump is a rambling moron. Biden is old, that is a very real concern, but he wasn't incoherent even a little bit.
What?
When asked about abortion, Biden started ranting about illegal immigrants murdering women...
And for an example used an instance where we don't know who the murderers are, but right wing media keeps claiming it was immigrants.
Like, this isn't just you and me bub.
Feel free to provide a source from literally any major news organization claiming Biden did well and was coherent.
You're currently commenting on one about the opposite, but I can find more if you want
Trump didn't answer a single question with anything other than, "I'm rubber; you're glue." Biden was stumbly but he at least answered questions and you 90% knew what he was talking about.
To rephrase this, trump performed as expected, Biden performed worse than expected.
Exactly.
I don't know why people want to declare Biden did a great job just because Trump showed up and acted like trump.
Obviously, neither candidate did a great job. I just don't see how anyone can declare Trump the winner. Everything is about what Biden did poorly. Are the right-wing forums sitting around this morning discussing what great ideas Trump put out last night?
trump supporters were always going to say it, but who cares what they think?
Because when the only other option is trump, it really matters if Biden isn't capable.
Again, who cares?
And why does it sound like you want Dem voters to be more like Republican voters and have zero standards besides the letter by someone's name?
You can't turn the Dem party into the Republican party. If that's what Dem voters wanted from a party. They'd be Republican voters.
It's easier to change the candidate than 60 million Dem voter's standards...
I definitely don't want to be more like the Republicans who blindly follow a party. I just don't see how they're declaring a win when their guy brought nothing - no ideas, no plan, just made up shit about post-birth abortion and golf. I heard Biden on the radio today and he sounds alive and coherent and excited.
He didn't answer every question, multiple times he just went off about something else.
If you feel like you understood him 90% of the time, then you're the exception. I'm sure every trump supporter is saying trump made sense most of the time too.
That's why I asked:
And you apparently couldn't find one...
Edit:
And I shouldn't have to repeat this in every comment...
But yes.
Trump is terrible.
But Biden might not be good enough to beat Trump, so why not run someone that is while we're still a month away from the convention and as the DNC loves to say: they can nominate anyone they want, primaries aren't real elections.
That is an outright lie. I'm not a fan of Biden for different reasons, but let's stick to the truth.
I actually watched the debate. Its clear you didnt. Biden was coherent, even trump was for the most part coherent, he just made stuff up constantly.
Calling it ranting is hyperbole, but but he did randomly start talking about immigrants murdering women when answering the question about abortion.
https://youtu.be/z8eMauO_T88?si=_MDIXV7B-Hi3IU_5
For an average person? Sure.
Rant: to talk in a noisy, excited, or declamatory manner
For last night? It was one of Biden's most energetic responses...
For him, it was noisy, excited, and declamatory in manner.
In the context of Joe Biden, he was ranting about it.
Quick edit:
Your clip isn't the one I'm remembering from last night and that my link referenced. I'll try and find the other one, I didn't know he pulled the same pivot twice.
I'm more familiar with the definition that includes the length of the speech. If you were using a definition that only refers to the energy, then I wouldn't call it hyperbole.
No worries, the English language is almost completely illogical.
But yeah, with a 2 minute timer it's hard to go into that meaning of a rant.
More of the "ranting and raving" then like a Dennis Leary standup joke that has a 45 minute set up.
Edit:
Oh and your clip is the only one that came up when I was searching, I might try and flip thru the whole debate if I can find that to see if it came up twice. But I probably won't be that much energy into it, I was probably just remembering it wrong
https://apnews.com/live/presidential-debate-2024-updates
This isn't the 1970s... We don't have to rely on our memories of what happened
If you don't believe the AP's live updates, if the full debate is uploaded to YouTube somewhere you can watch Biden say it.
You didn't watch the debate. You were on 4chan apparently. This is the same exact thing those chuds are saying over there.
https://apnews.com/live/presidential-debate-2024-updates
It literally happened...
You can go back and watch it happen.
I get that it's not what you want to have happened, but that doesn't change reality