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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

because he's the incumbent

There's an argument to be made that incumbency could actually be a drag right now. People don't feel the government is working for them and they blame those currently in power. We saw with Trump that a lot of people will vote for any kind of change, even if it's objectively worse.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's an argument to be made that incumbency could actually be a drag right now.

Alright, make it. People haven't felt like the government has been working for them since I was old enough to vote, so I very much doubt that by itself is really your reasoning. People tell me that I change my mind surprisingly easily, so go ahead.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Look at the wave of right wing populists winning across Europe. Hungary, Italy, Netherlands, and a bunch of other countries have elected these kind of anti-establishment candidates. Same pattern as "MAGA" conservatives in the US. These people don't win elections because they're competent. They aren't even good campaigners. They get elected because they're promising to trash the system.

It's not just that people don't feel like the government is working for them, it's that they are looking to authoritarianism to provide solutions.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

France and the UK just gave the right a pair of fat Ls, so I don't think your chosen narrative is as clear as you seem to think. Furthermore, we were discussing the potential advantage/disadvantage of specifically being the incumbent, rather than the appeal of the right wing. That is to say, your argument fails to support your thesis.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Trump was an incumbent in 2020. He lost.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wow, how completely irrelevant to the entire point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Well I just made incumbency irrelevant to your point, so it seems relevant.