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Factually, that's what he did during his time in office as well. I'm not sure what they thought had changed.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't think of them as undecided.

Think of them as people unwilling to hold their nose for Biden or trump.

Change out Biden, and suddenly more people are willing to vote.

Because Biden was and is a bad candidate. He spent like 50 years trying to be president and only succeeded in a rigged primary against the literal worst president we've ever had when he was the incumbent.

I don't think trump and Biden are the complete bottom of the barrel numbers for an incumbent at the end of their first term, but I'd be surprised if they weren't bottom 5, there might be a handful of ancient (for America) history that were less popular but not in modern history

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Turnout seems to be slightly improving, but it's still around 60%. I get not being thrilled about either candidate, but you're not picking a best friend, you're pretty much picking a CEO for the country.

It's kinda weird to get thrilled by any candidate. I like a lot of things taxes pay for, but I didn't get excited for the act of paying taxes. Voting is just another civic duty we should all be doing.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

Republicans get candidate they're excited for. Dems get candidates we can hold our noses for (hopefully)

It's a bigger reason why we still have republican presidents than the electoral college.

https://ballotpedia.org/Voter_turnout_in_United_States_elections

I'm not sure where your picture came from. Or why it's combining 2 elections a line or why it's numbers are wrong.

But 60% for presidential years is pretty normal.

08 got a bump from Obama running, and 2020 got a bump because trump was the incumbent. 2024 will likly be above 2020 still. But that's because compared to trump or Biden, Kamala is an amazing candidate. If we had known it would be Kamala, I think she wouldn't get the numbers she's about to