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I think we learned our lesson with Bill Nye vs Ken Hamm. There is no good faith to be had, only a megaphone.
I feel awful giving him money but I went to that “museum” in 2014 with my dad and sister. We thought it be an interesting place to go and learn to drive on my learners permit. We are Atheist Jews.
What I learned while I was there (sarcastically, I know the place is all propaganda for their Kool-Ade).
In their astronomy video they specifically say that a light year is the distance light travels in a year. The way they get around the universe being bigger than 6000 light is with the explanation: gravitational time dilation and anisotropic synchrony.
They said lack of god lead to teen boys watching porn and playing GTA. Then they will commit school shootings.
Girls will get pregnant and get abortions. Then they feel bad and commit suicide.
Adam and Eve lived in the tropics with dinosaurs and penguins and all ate pineapple.
Eve at the Apple committing the original sim by defying god and set subservience to man.
Velociraptors were on the arc.
Continental drift and all the super continents broke apart and back together multiple times when the world was flooded for a year.
On the arc they brought one kind of animal and once they went free then they split off into different species.
Separation of church and state is discriminatory against Christians.
Allowing evolution thought in public schools was an assault on Christianity.
Atheism leads to poverty, hunger, famine, drought, war, death, slavers, insert any horrible thing and atheism is to blame.
They had a whole bunch of finches to show Darwin was wrong.
… It was an interesting experience. The dioramas had a lot of work. The miniatures were neat.
The whole place made me angry and frustrated. Especially once they used Carl Sagan’s name to prove their baseless ideology he specifically spoke against shit like this.
Wait, what? How in the fuck? Wouldn't that mean that the continents would be bouncing around the planet at like 50+MPH or some shit to equate to the total continental drift that actually occurred? That means that ocean explorers never actually went anywhere, they just sat in their boats for a couple of hours until the next continent came buzzing by. LOL!!
This is why it's so hard to tell the difference between the Americas and India. They are blurred by the speed
My favorite bit of the Creation Museum. I laugh every time I read it. The last point is especially funny.
TD;DR:
Before jumping to conclusions realize that:
1-6: incest ain't so bad.
Thanks for posting that. I think it sums up the double speak nicely.
Just so nobody else feels the need to give Ken Hamm their money, here are some photos from someone who already visited:
https://imgur.com/gallery/aGFFF
https://imgur.com/a/qxxJH
It's mind bending, isn't it? Hold all the power in your hands and play the victim. Fundie Christians in a nutshell.
What's an 'atheist jew'?
Culturally Jewish? Someone who was brought up with Jewish values but does not believe themselves.
I understood what they meant.
But what aspects of the culture do they observe and which do they eschew? It begs questions if nothing else.
You could have just looked it up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_atheism
You can just look up lots of stuff. You never ask any questions on here the answers to which you could find yourself?
Correct. That shit is exactly why early 2010s Reddit and (hopefully) lemmy is a much better read in the comments section than today's Reddit. For things that are not straightforward, yeah somebody scrolling on by will answer an interesting question. But I'm sure most people want more meaningful discussion happening in the comments here than people becoming your personal wikipedia bot. Remember "reddiquette"?
Where do you draw the line for what's acceptable? Did I have a reasonable expectation that there was gonna be much that Google could elucidate? Did it seem likely that there'd be a Wikipedia page for what ostensibly is a complete contadiction in terms?
I asked a quick question, nobody was beholden to respond, and I'd have been fine if they hadn't. The fact is I was interested enough to enquire in passing but not to make my own investigations.
You can be ethnically Jewish without being religiously Jewish.
Is jewish an ethnicity?
"what would it take for you to change your mind?"
Nye: "evidence"
Hamm: "nothing can change my mind"
How do you move forward from that point?