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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Their logic is that Kamala is actively contributing to a genocide, whereas Trump is not.

This is literally the most braindead political take I've ever heard, and that's saying a lot

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's a classic "technically true, but not particularly useful" information tidbit. Harris is in office, Trump isn't.

Of course, you could argue that Vance - as a powerful member of the US Senate - is participating in the genocide while Walz - a governor of a midwestern state with no meaningful role in foreign policy - isn't. Equally true, but meaningless.

The problem Harris has isn't that Trump gets innocence-by-default by being out of office for four years. Its that she's doggedly clinging to the "both sides" framing of the Israeli genocide and scaring off Arab-American voters as a consequence. It doesn't matter whether Harris is better or worse than Trump when the baseline of US policy is the mass slaughter of your friends and family.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s a classic “technically true, but not particularly useful” information tidbit. Harris is in office, Trump isn’t.

Harris is in an office that is entirely powerless (yes, she casts a vote in the event of a Senate tie, but no bill funding Israel has come down to that). She and Trump have nothing to do with the (current) Palestinian genocide.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

The problem that Harris has is the mountains of propaganda working against her.

Not saying she's perfect, but in a practical sense the spin matters FAR more than the facts.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I agree that it's a bad take. But at this point I think that they're desperate, trying anything they can to get Kamala to change course. It's an urgent issue that can be solved easily: just stop supplying weapons and aid to Israel. Four years from now, most Palestinians living in Palestine will already be dead.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That loses older uninformed democrat voters unfortunately

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

it's not just uninformed voters, my grandfather is a retired history teacher and, he firmly believes that while Isreal is in the wrong, that it's not in the US best interest to drop them. He's worries that the destabalization of the area further will invite other foreign adversaries to invade it while also losing basically the only is friendly territory around. He's worried it'll be a repeat of the last time

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I mean, that does make sense actually...