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It's like these libs believe that Kamala is entitled to our vote.

If I didn't vote for PSL, then I simply would not vote! It's not "PSL or Kamala;" it's "PSL or sit on my ass at home."

I know libs don't understand nuance, but it still is so frustrating that they put this framing on me where they assume that I have any actual interest in a Kamala president over a Trump presidency.

Not only that, but this person called Claudia de la Cruz a "clowny leftist with no choice of winning" (which isn't the point of a third party vote; let's be real), but I just told the lib, "You call her clowny, but you are literally guilt tripping and insulting me just because I won't vote for someone who is actively greenlighting a genocide on Palestinians." and then I blocked.

Whether Trump or Kamala wins, I'll enjoy social media outrage from either side, but it seems like what I'll see from liberals in the case of a Trump election will be more entertaining. I truly think libs are beyond being redeemed, and that even goes for the more "progressive" types who appropriate the label of "democratic socialist" like Bernie and AOC. I don't adhere to lesser-evilism, so I'm not gonna pretend that this one-party state with two parties has one side over the other functioning in a way that could especially benefit me.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

the "you are wasting your vote when you vote for someone who won't win" is one of those weird frames that Democrats have been deploying since I was young.

it's so deeply stupid it's hard to know where to begin. it made me want to say that I would only vote for whoever looked like was most certain of victory so that I could support the winner and therefore win at this game of voting and brag about being in the winning team.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The only votes that matter are in swing states, and even then, probably down to swing counties. The race at this point is decided by like what, 100,000 people maybe? People want to believe that "Every vote counts!" but, they don't, that's called a popular vote, and we don't do that here.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago

"Swing counties" don't matter, only state totals.

Dems & their media like to hype up the importance of those counties so they can focus on appealing to conservatives rather than running up the score in urban centers with a progressive agenda.

If Kamala wanted to win, she'd be running for president of Philadelphia, not running ads on how she wants to deport everyone like she's been doing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

And even then we're talking about margins of 100k in most of the "swing" states... so no, your one vote for Jill Stein didn't "steal" anything.

Like others said, if there wasn't a 3rd party option this time I'd leave President blank. I don't want to support the Democrats. I want to DESTROY the Democrats. Fuck em!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago

it made me want to say that I would only vote for whoever looked like was most certain of victory so that I could support the winner and therefore win at this game of voting and brag about being in the winning team.

this framing is pretty much what libs have internalized. everybody knows, on some level, that there's no hope of turning off the child murdering machine, so there's nothing left to get excited about except whether the child murdering machine will be painted red or blue

Death to America