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Summary

Many Democrats, especially women, expressed disillusionment and frustration online, viewing the result as a reflection of deep-seated misogyny in the U.S.

Harris supporters highlighted anger that a “felony convicted, twice-impeached” Trump prevailed over a female candidate.

Comparisons to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 loss resurfaced, with many attributing Trump’s win to targeted appeals to young men, including appearances with influencers like Joe Rogan.

The election outcome has intensified concerns over growing right-wing radicalization among young men.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

Honestly, I feel we have a huge disinformation problem. A war really where billionaires, Russia, Iran,and China are on one side and we're on the other. They treat it like a war while we treat it like a small infestation. So many Republicans I speak with bring up reason why they support trump that are reasonable: Better economy, Protecting children, protecting rights, protecting jobs, reducing crime.in a vacuum, cool candidate. Except that many of the strategies he utilize to accomplish those goals seems illegal or unhelpful. Even worse, who cares if he could and would accomplish those goals, He tried to overthrow the government. Yet all the Republicans I know view that as untrue. Mainly in the form of, "I don't hear about it much, so it's either fake news,or not really a coup"

Why? Because they get their news from faux news and social media that have focused on keeping those negative aspects of him buried. And both of those things have huge reach.they are the eyes and ears of these voters, how can they not believe their eyes and ears that tell them that Trump is great?

Until that problem is dealt with, we can't have an informed population that votes. Instead we will have a large group of uninformed voters. It's not their fault, they're just some of the first casualties in this disinformation war.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Don’t take the word of a fascist at face value. They don't argue in good faith. They are all racists and sexists, every single one. They’re just too cowardly to say it to your face.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

“So many Republicans I speak with bring up reason why they support trump that are reasonable: Better economy, Protecting children, protecting rights, protecting jobs, reducing crime”

Except Trump has done none of these things. These people are lying to you, and probably to themselves.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

That's the point I'm trying to make(but didn't do well). Successful Media is telling Trump can, has and will do these things . If they're told this repeatedly, with no other sane opinions, of course they will believe it. Worse still, they're also told views to the contrary are completely false and should be disregarded

[–] [email protected] 50 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

I saved a comment from u/allmhuran posted to r/news on 2016-06-24:

"Australia has had five prime ministers in five years, the poor yanks look as though they'll have to choose between two options both of which have more disapproval than approval, and the UK leaves the EU. It seems like a ridiculous amount of instability. One might even call it absurd.

But it's not surprising.

You can't feed a society exaggeration, hyperbole and propaganda for over a decade, and then claim surprise when people don't seem to be making rational decisions on the basis of well established truth.

There's a cost associated with not telling the truth. There's a cost associated with polarized, adversarial public discourse. There's a cost associated with media more concerned with profits than the public interest.

It is, apparently, time to pay the piper."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 hours ago

I think education is a factor here as well. People collectively seemed to have started just taking any sources word as objective truth with no rationalisation or justification. The fact we now have google forcing ai answers onto people that are factually wrong or unreliable and most just don't question it is emblematic of the problem. People lack critical thinking now.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 17 hours ago

There’s a cost associated with media more concerned with profits than the public interest.

Media: good thing we're not the ones paying the price! Continue current heading, profits ho!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 17 hours ago

Very well stated. We need to operate within this reality instead of the fantasy land created by those who will be fine either way.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

And what's the suggestion here? I'm not getting it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 16 hours ago

They aren't suggesting anything. They're saying we're poisoned and it's gone critical.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago

The worst part is all of those claims can be easily debunked, but not a one of them will ever believe it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

Unless that the large portion of americas population that thinks the ultra rich are awesome suddenly stops thinking that way then it’s gonna be a difficult battle.