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True, but on the other hand, The Empire does make extensive use of forced labor; both in the form of conscripted labor, but also slavery. So it's not like everybody working on the Death Star actually chose to be there.
The part in Andor where they're in prison, those things they're assembling are structural struts for the Death Star.
That was an interesting twist in Andor
That's a good point, though I wonder if they would have taken the risk of having slaves working onsite on such an important piece of equipment. Still, probably best to storm the place and capture everyone for trial. We can always blow the empty station and put it on the Holonet later
If I recall correctly in Andor the build on site was made by robots. In Episode 3 there are a lot of military personnel supervising the thing with the Emperor.
If the rebels had the numbers to raid the Death Star and arrest everyone on board, the asymmetrical warfare wouldn’t have been necessary in the first place.
Morally best, not practically best for sure
The benefit of blowing that whole shit up ASAP far exceeds the benefit of not killing the hypothetical forced labor on board.
If they're even on board. Using prison labor to build parts for the death star is one thing, keeping a prison workforce on board. That would be like taking a bunch of people from jail and having them work on an aircraft carrier.
Is aircraft carrier a good comparison? The empire battleships seem to be the equivalent of aircraft carriers, the death star is more like a nuclear weapon carrying submarine turned into a giant sphere I think?
Big War Thing. The comparison is less specific than yours but I think it still works just fine.
You know this got me thinking... I'm not super familiar with star Wars, haven't seen any since I was pretty young, but I remember thinking the Death Star was like HUGE, with like the population of a large city living in its labyrinth.
If that's so, the movie really should've shown the "average innocent" Death Star person on break just drinking at the local sector bar, getting surprised and the. blasted unceremoniously by some rebel. They probably had like whole shopping centers that could've been cool to show the banality of that evil. Would've really pushed home the "empire is evil" idea.
Or not because then it's less useful propaganda. But I would've liked it at least
Libs would just came out with "war is hell" take out of it
Bringing galley slaves back.
Don't give any ideas
True, and the main villain here is still The Empire who forced the situation.
Slaves and conscripted labor were used in its construction, but by the time it was "fully operational" the slaves would've been shipped out and replaced with the elite of the imperial military hierarchy, everyone of the million or so personnel would have been picked from the top names of countless lists, the Death Star was the most prestigious posting in the empire and there's no way slaves would be present in any significant numbers on such a mission-critical piece of tech
I'm laughing about the ridiculousness of this piece of lore and then remembering that the Green Zone in Iraq had a Burger King for the troops. They had their own little slice of suburbia inside the former government palace.
Are we the baddies?
This is a good point, however the meme that OP posted is referencing the scene from "Clerks" that Arthur Besse posted below me.
The problem with the rationale of that scene is that the labor force that built "Death Star 2" would look more like the kind of labor force building modern-day Gulf State vanity projects, rather than US suburban contractors.
Hey wasn't that the dude who got paperclipped? great idea, I wonder if they did anything with it
In Ahsoka they have some characters working to covertly bring back the Empire. I think its an ongoing plot line, that the New Republic is packed to the brim with fascists who want to restore the Empire and their actions will lead directly to ep7 and the First Order.
i read this in a novel actually, the elites of the new republic liked the economic policies of the empire more so they backed the fascists that wanted to restore it
god there’s so much potential in this shit
I didn't see that part of Mandalorian, so I don't get it.