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I guess since he sucks it's now bad that he killed a POS ceo and demonstrated that the bourgeoisie aren't invincible.
Killing a POS CEO and demonstraing that the bourgeoisie aren't invincible is good even if the person who did it sucks
Basil posting on Lemmy.ml lol
No one thinks or thought this was genuinely a communistic/theory based thing. Everyone here has basically said something about him likely being a reactionary from the very day the assassination took place
That doesn’t make it less good the dude got got, like this has definitely shown how cathartic it has been for the masses and how universally derided healthcare is.
People are 1) literally just enjoying the fact that a usually untouchable person caught one and that’s it and 2) not necessarily taking the pigs word as sacrosanct straight out the gate.
I really used to be one of those "all life is sacred" people, I thought I would never get satisfaction from the death of another, but after learning just how little human life matters to people like Brian Thompson for example, and how much they profit from the exploitation and ruination of human life, I have been surprised at how pleasant his assassination has been. It's also that we are constantly having to hear about people who don't deserve to die being subjected to humiliating and unjust deaths both in the news and our personal lives, it's somehow nice that it went the other way for once.
Nuance? On my Hexbear?
The issue is you have bad reading comprehension and read a level of sincerity or complete misrepresentation into most of the comments you’ve replied to.
Half of the people in these threads don’t even know wtf you’re talking about bc you stood on a soapbox about how the guy is reactionary as if everyone didn’t already know that lol
You're still talking for some reason, so i guess I've changed my mind, you and your bad argument need a good drubbin'
No matter who you are now, if you are a yank or westerner? chances are you were once a liberal, cuz that's where we all start.
Liberal brainworms are lost throughout the life cycle of all leftists, and you have one in particular i'd have you expunge.
Your specific bug is: coming into this thread to make a very specific point, phrasing it in such a way as to foment argument, and engaging in ad-hominem. (Do not @ me with the literal definition of liberal holmes, i see your fingers twitchin')
Whatever you claim your politics are, the words you use itt have that hallmark-huff of pigshit on em what tells me you've got a lot more reading on logic to do before you are able to hold useful discussions. Until then, you are a liberal. Sorry, i don't make the rules.
Since you claim you read theory i sure hope this means youre capable of changing your mind, cuz i'd like to watch you grow beyond this puerile bad-faith shit-stirrin crap.
You'll start by understanding on a deep level that you're average. You're not dumb by any means but remember! You're not above average either, ok? Don't take it from me, tell yourself this, even if you don't believe it. It's the only way you'll rise above lib-level posting.
i'm not even saying that to get you angry, it sure would be neat if i could somehow word this in a way to prove what i want is you to be better than this.
If nothing else, Leftists need to be convincing and focused and what you're serving is harmful noise. Do you have the empathetic intelligence necessary to understand what i mean by "useless and harmful", even if you disagree? Can you see why others besides myself might be unimpressed? Prove it. Prove it in silence, understanding that the strong emotions you are feeling inside do not translate as your having something of substance to say.
Outside of this thread, could you defend the posts and attitude you took today to your leftist peers?
Have you tried starting a book club.?
Between this and your other replies on this post, I feel like we're mere inches from getting an (I'm guessing) "anarchist" version of the Dirty Ushanka copypasta. Exciting times
No everything has to be serious at all times and we cannot find any humor in the absurdity of hell world.
The last time I smiled was on November 15th, 2011.
I wear an unwashed battlevest at all times, cannot grow hair, and do not bathe because that would violate the non-aggression pact with my skin microbiome.
Every day I liberate and consume 35 buns from the Jack in the Box dumpster. I eat them randomly throughout the day because set mealtimes are a weapon of the state. Any extra I use to cultivate a custom strain of Penicillin in the event that the bacteria violates the NAP first.
I do not sleep on a bed, that would be putting myself above furniture and I will not participate in the creation of a hierarchy. There is a maple tree that allows me to rest my head on its lowest branch in exchange for my labor in chasing off the woodpecker. I do not actually chase away the woodpecker, I bribe it with bugs from the dumpster. The bugs started it by biting me when I was finding bread.
In the evenings I barter for a can of PBR. I only open it if I cannot find a police officer to throw it at.
Food Not Bombs banned me when I glassed another volunteer for asking if I would give them one of my buns. I did not stab them for wanting the bun, I stabbed them for using the word "give" which would imply a charitable relationship rather than mutual assistance. I will not be forced into a hierarchy. I let them keep the bottle as a token of goodwill.
I will not allow plumbing in my house because plumbing is a weapon of the state. Every shit I take is taken on the flag of a state that should not exist. I dispose of my shit flags by lighting them on fire and throwing them at their respective embassies. I am running out of embassies.
My house is an assemblage of tents recovered from Occupy Wall Street in the middle of Liberty Park. I am still occupying wall street. They forgot to check the sewers.
I have a single friend in this world and it is a liver fluke named Emma that I met after ingesting spoiled pottage on 9/11 while protesting outside the Pentagon security checkpoint (I am outraged that a plane crash received more media coverage than my four year long protest. I did enjoy the vibes).
I have neither income nor debt. I refuse to touch money because it is issued by the state.
The IRS has a grudge against me because the trust fund my grandfather left me has never paid taxes. This was his attempt to force me into a hierarchy. I will not touch the trust because money is a weapon of the state.
I own 97 Mossberg shotguns that I have liberated from police cruisers. I left every shell behind because lead is bad for the environment. I have a single shotshell loaded with steel turkey shot that I bartered from a hunter for half of a Natural American Spirit cigarette.
My PhDs in Computer Science and 19th century Russian philosophy sit on my desk in my home to remind me of the hierarchical nature of education. My desk is the frame from my medical diploma. I leave it on the ground because sitting on a chair would force the chair below me in a hierarchy.
My chair is a Herman Miller Aeron that I liberated from Twitter headquarters when everyone was focusing on Elon Musk's sink. The chair agreed that coming with me would be mutually beneficial. The chair and I have been seeking consensus on a mutually beneficial seating arrangement for two years.
During the latest BLM protests I firebombed a Nikes outlet in the middle of a peaceful candlelit vigil.
William F Buckley and I wrote hatemail to one another for 47 years until my final letter gave him an aneurysm. My letters were hand delivered on bricks I liberated from Home Depot.
The only water I drink is from puddles.
The Wachowskis and I dropped estrogen together during a Soros-funded summer camp for aspiring crisis actors and they went on to write The Matrix about our time together.
The best way to test whether an electrical wire is live is to drool on it and shrimp salad is racist. Uncle Ted taught me his preferred mixing ratio for smokeless powder but also told me that black powder is more fun.
Every time a business owner files a restraining order against me, I carve a mark into the wall.
I am running out of walls.
When Amerikkka finally collapses I will be able to retire.
I am very smart and people like being around me.
Times like this I miss UlyssesT
its not like he can undead the CEO
If he could, would that be based or cringe? He's an Ivy League guy, so his family probably has access to one of those good grimoires that let you raise wights instead of simple zombies, so on the one hand, he could get up to all kinds of CEO-on-CEO shenanigans, but on the other hand, that would also make him a wight supremacist.
Good post lmao
adding this detail is such a hilarious example of lib brain
do not interpret this to mean that i think that luigi is good
Death to America
let's all instead pretend that cops are always 100% trustworthy
I mean, I don't even fully believe that this is the shooter, which makes all of the fantasies about him being some sort of avatar for working class resentment even more silly from my perspective. As far as I know he's just a guy with shitty beliefs and opinions who may or may not be getting strung up for a crime he didn't do, which like isn't good but I think some people are being a little goofy about this.
I think two things are at play
1: The folk hero stuff is clearly just memes. I don’t think anyone here genuinely thinks there’s a movement to be built around the guy. But it’s the internet and it’s basically the main way we know how to engage in things.
2: the act itself separate from the perpetrator is just cathartic and something to rally behind. It could have been anyone doing it and people would have been like “well at least a ceo got shot.” For sure everyone would prefer it have happened for ideological reasons that align with our sensibilities but it’s one of those things where the situation represents more than the person involved
For sure, I get those things. People are excited by that catharsis, especially since there's been few opportunities to feel a real W in recent years. That being said, I don't think it's productive for people here to be getting on each other's case about Based Shooter? Cringe shooter? Are you a liberal for dismissing propaganda of the deed? etc etc.
If we're not pretending that cops are always 100% trustworthy (to call back to btfod's comment) then this should also apply to the notion that Luigi is the shooter. If we're not sure that Luigi is the shooter, then we should probably exercise some restraint here.
Yea I don’t think it’s worth blowing out of proportion anymore than to the level I kinda gave it in my last comment. He’s a goober who fell ass backwards into something in and of itself is kinda based ig, may or may not even be the shooter, whatever lol
Tbh maybe I’m missing stuff but I’ve only seen a few people really getting up and arms about it and they’re relatively new accounts so take that for what it is.
the only things I'm sure of are not to trust the cops, and to be gracious with everyone else. restraint seems prudent, I agree.
I mean, I’d like a primary source. I don’t trust AmeriKKKan “news” orgs to do anything but bootlick the cops, breathlessly reprint their press releases, and join in the attempts to quell unrest or class consciousness after events like this one.
I’m still hoping for more radicalization and adventurism even if this guy is a
and is also actually the culprit. I still got excited when McConnell’s sister-in-law ate shit in one of Elmo’s bazinga cars.
Most Americans are bootlickers, he doesn't need to be the ideologically perfect specimen to say he did damn good in one regard.
Shit's bigger than him anyway. Look at the reaction. Look at the conversation that's starting.
Whatever his other tech-bro views are - I haven't seen a single miss in regards to how ghoulish the private healthcare system is and what needs to be done to fix it. That's what we should be looking at. That's what he did. When a politician has a shit take it's bad because they have power over things. This is just a young man, the only power he had he used in a good way. Unless he starts soapboxing about some other shit now that he could get some attention I really don't care.
Pretend what though? I don't understand
Ah yeah i don't see that particular cope myself, maybe im inna wrong thread. If Luigi is in fact our boy i'll still take him warts and all. If he had good politics or a marxist reading list those books wouldn't be shared by the feds anyhow, right? The only think AP will ever show of someone like him is something they think will lower our esteem, right?
He gave me a gift. He showed me something is possible. And if others are like me and can remember that what he did is more important than what he thinks, they will remain his cheerleader. If what he accomplished is cheered, class consciousness is raised.
Will that be what follows? Maybe not with the opinion maker's media stranglehold... But that chance is only possible at all because of his actions.
First sentence:
The very next sentence:
You're in a post reporting his manifesto included bootlicking my dude. You are the cope.
Oh wait, youre just another lousy lib aren't ya? Sorry, i mistook you for a serious person.
Your application for my time has been denied
stay mad about whatever it is you're mad about
I love these comments more than the actual attempts to rehab this dude because "being mad" is literally the undercurrent that drives the rehabilitation. I frankly don't give a shit about this guy anymore. I'm simply tired of seeing this lazy shit on my page, and waiting for the other shoe to drop.
Then log off. You’re not being Ludovico’d with hexbear threads
Easy: death of the author. If this is the guy his work is already out there for people to interpret & draw their own conclusions from, his own intentions/views don't really matter.
The assassination of a health insurance CEO was met with widespread popular support. We saw people with signs & banners with the message the shooter left at the scene. It's still too early to say but we may get copycats following in their footsteps.
The shooters own views/reasons matter less than what people take away from this, and it seems like the takeaway is plenty of Americans (and others) support killing health insurance executives.
Yeah there’s been a lot of copium since it turns out he’s not even remotely left wing
This site underestimates the stupidity of American people and their thoughts