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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Interesting. It wasn’t loaded to be honest. I just don’t understand what is a “true conservative” as every time I hear it come up, it’s usually just in the context of “current conservatives aren’t real conservatives.” So I was curious what your definition is.

Like let’s take “law and order.” Who is against that? It’s a meaningless phrase designed to paint opposition as for “no laws and disorder.” So the phrase is sort of meaningless to me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Like let’s take “law and order.” Who is against that?

Well, presently the Republicans Mitt Romney is at odds with. They consistently vote to shield Trump from consequences for his crimes.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People who are for "law and order" are generally just simping for cops. I do agree that it's kind of a ridiculous phrase but there are strong connotations that come along with it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I get what the connotations are but it’s like “pro-life.” The implication is opponents are “anti-life” or “pro-death” and so the entire conversation is immediately lopsided/in some ways poisoned and dishonest.

When you look at the conservative platform it’s all like this. “I am for families.” So that means opponents are against families. It’s very broad statements that make - when looked at closely - kind of ridiculous statements about their opponents. So if there is “real” conservative, which is usually a stand in for “reasonable,” I don’t actually know what their policies are. They used to hide behind “fiscal responsibility” but that was always dubious and their last 20 years of spending have eradicated any argument they make about spending lol