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[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Wait. I'm a 1. I didn't know there were people that can't visualize.

I mean, it makes sense I guess. Vision isn't the only way to perceive something. Feelings, sounds, smells etc are just as valid.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I would love to know if you’re good at drawing and the like? I am a 5 on the scale and I have always excelled in school and university, but I can’t draw worth a damn. Hell my handwriting is pretty bad too.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I am a very visual person and I can picture stuff very clearly in my mind. I can't draw for shit, to the point that it makes me mad sometimes because i can imagine something visual but i can't put it on paper, or it looks nothing like what I imagined.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Me too. Part of the issue is that deconstructing a perspective does not come naturally to many people, they [I] instead imagine the object in a more 3D sense instead of the sight of the object itself.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Yeah, but even for more "cartoony" or 2D-looking stuff i have trouble doing it. It takes practice, as with everything, i suppose.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm partially in this camp too, it used to be very irritating, but I have learnt to take it much more slowly, and try to picture object from a fixed angle. From there you can zoom in to specific areas and think about lighting, shadows, etc as needed. I initially was never patient with myself enough to actually use my imagination for drawing, but after I took more time I found it is a really powerful tool. As the other commentor said, you have to be more strict with yourself. Normally I could have a mental image and fly all around it and view it from many different angles. Putting it down on paper requires concentration to fix it in a certain configuration and keep it constant, so you can record it. I really recommend giving it a go. Imagine some simple objects and see if you can render the shadows in your head. Then see if you can draw them. Be strict with your imagination, don't let it run away.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Be strict with your imagination, don't let it run away.

sweats nervously in neurodivergent

In all seriousness, thanks for the tips! I'll give it a try, and let you know how it goes!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I would also call myself a 1, but I am not even remotely good at drawing. I also wouldn’t say I can “see” things in my mind like I can with my eyes, it’s more like I can imagine the way something looks in the same manner as remembering a vivid memory.

My internal monologue is constant though. Every time I read something or think of something is like that cartoon inside out. I have a mini me that lives in my head.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

You’ll get a kick out of this, I don’t see my memories either. If I try hard I can remember some visual details like “you wore a red shirt” or “the car was a Mazda” but I’m not seeing it. I’m remembering it all in words.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

I'm in the same boat. It was always frustrating that I had no way of accurately putting what I saw in the brain on paper.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

I'd say I'm like a 3 on the scale. I've never practiced drawing much, but when I was drawing from a reference I've made some half decent sketches. Drawing off of memory though, I'm completely useless. So there might be a correlation here.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

By 1, do you mean you can picture all the details of an image in your mind, or do you mean you can turn visual hallucinations on and off at will? Many people who say they can't visualize anything are unwittingly just saying they can't hallucinate, because they think you can.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

By 1, do you mean you can picture all the details of an image in your mind, or do you mean you can turn visual hallucinations on and off at will?

I suppose that's strictly true for me even though real visual input completely overrides the hallucination. It's like comparing the Sun with some random star. However, there was that one time I smoked way too much weed, which had an effect of greatly augmenting my mind's eye so it became comparing the Sun with Venus. Visual input was still at the forefront, but you now had the mind's eye image of the object being superimposed on the actual object.

If you're talking about just being amused by the floating images when the eyes are closed, yes I've done this countless times. I don't see this as any different from replaying movie dialogue or imagining eating something delicious.