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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago (13 children)

A correspondent from the US government-backed Voice of America is reporting that a US intelligence assessment showed with “high confidence” that Israel is not responsible for bombing Al-Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza.

The latest US findings contradict several other analyses, including from Al Jazeera investigators, showing that the weapon that hit the hospital and resulted in the deaths of at least 471 people came from the direction of Israel.

“We judge that the munition that caused the explosion was not an Israeli munition,” a US intelligence official was quoted as telling VOA journalist Jeff Seldin.

“The damage at the hospital is consistent w/what we would expect to see from a rocket,” Seldin said in a post on X.

-Al Jazeera

why are they still doing this?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago

the same people who said russia bombed nordstream

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Also, not only was this presentation at the UN full of complete bullshit, and anyone with an internet connection and time could prove it, western media fell over themselves praising that motherfucker and saying he brilliantly laid out the case for war.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Becuase this is really the first time people have actually paid attention to the conflict. They are unaware that hospitals have always been targets.

Oct 7th is a prime example that violence does get results. Non violent protest is just bs propaganda that allows you to be easily gnored.

Violence gets the goods

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“We judge that the munition that caused the explosion was not an Israeli munition,” a US intelligence official was quoted as telling US intelligence asset Jeff Seldin.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

not an Israeli munition

well duh, it was a United States Mk84 with a JDAM package

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

Leaves no room to discuss Israel's numerous other crimes.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

love too immolate my credibility

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

The government line of the UK and US is that it didn't happen, and even if it did happen, then it was ~~Hamas~~ ~~DFLP~~ PIJ, so all their outlets like NYT and BBC have to twist and contort themselves to fit the new truth. It's been really funny seeing redditors accept this new reality and call for apologies from the news agencies because "they were too favourable to Hamas" (Hamas propaganda dept. working overtime).

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

IDK that article licks Biden's boots like crazy, and I don't buy most of it. The whole, "But Biden also supports the Palestinians…" and "Showing empathy is one of Biden’s default strengths," is obviously a load of fucking hogwash. I think it's right that the U.S. doesn't really want this particular conflict to escalate...because it would rather focus on Russia and China, and it risks the U.S. losing even more control in the Middle East, not because Biden feels any fucking sympathy for Palestinians.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Taking up space is certainly one thing, but don't underestimate propaganda ghouls' ability to obsess about just one thing that might undermine their credibility. This one particular hospital bombing was picking up steam as the salient war crime. Folks were paying attention. So the Zionist entity did so as well with the most ludicrous lies.

They're trying to push their own atrocity propaganda line. Key to this is simultaneously pretending that they're "civilized" and defending themselves, not carpet bombing civilians and their infrastructure. Keep attention on the "bad" people doing the bad things. Sympathize with the Zionists. Etc etc.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

It's to take up space that could've gone to what the Zionist entity is currently doing.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

The only US media that's even somewhat reliable is Associated Press. Even when they're wrong, I can still appreciate that they went through basic journalistic practices to reach that conclusion. Everyone else is just gawking at their wires waiting for something they can spin.