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From Naked Capitalism:

...one has to wonder what the latest Blinken round of visits to the Middle East was supposed to accomplish, since all it did was expose our impotence. Even the Financial Times could not hide that the meetings with Netanyahu and then Arab leaders were a train wreck. Netanyahu rejected even any itty bitty ceasefire, branded a humanitarian pause, to get relief in, demanding that Hamas release all hostages first. The fact that Israel has welched or underperformed on its past begrudging promises to let trucks from Egypt in, would make that a non-starter even before getting to Hamas being sure to stick to its position of wanting to trade hostages for Palestinian prisoners. And of course the Arab states are not about to budge. Blinken got a more pointed version of what he was told before.

Antony Blinken faced intense pressure from regional allies to facilitate an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, laying bare the stark gap between US support for Israel and the outrage in Arab capitals over the siege and bombardment of the strip….

Sameh Shoukry, the Egyptian foreign minister, demanded an unconditional ceasefire, a commitment that Israel’s prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu bluntly rejected after meeting Blinken on Friday.

Blinken had been expected to “brainstorm” with Arab diplomats the future of Gaza, home to 2.3mn Palestinians, after the war ends. Safadi bluntly rejected those talks as premature. “How can we even entertain what will happen in Gaza when we do not know how Gaza will be left?” he asked Blinken. “Are we going to be talking about a wasteland? Are we talking about a whole population reduced to refugees?”

This comes off as the sort of thing someone who had just read classic texts on negotiating trying to put in practice: “Gee, let’s get a dialogue going! Let’s get to ‘Yes’ on some less fraught issues to pave the way for further agreement!” In addition, “brainstorming” is cringemakingly American. You don’t do that with people who are mad at you. You don’t do that in a crisis. Between independent entities, you do not do that at the top level. You have low level people or emissaries float ideas. So why this exercise? The worst is that Biden and Blinken come off as so disconnected from reality that they though they might get someone to accommodate US needs.


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If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Lebanon! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.



Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

You're going to have to (hex)bear with me on the update this week. Have you been feeling generally pretty terrible this last month or so? So have I, and doomscrolling and archiving it all is my quasi-job at this point. Not good, folks, more and more people are saying it. I'll get over it eventually.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (5 children)

We've entered that part of the war where all the uncertainties feel mostly settled and now it's just grind and I hate it.

All avenues for aid feel like they're closed. All pressures for a ceasefire feel closed. Best we can do is getting unions to strike against support.

North Gaza will eventually be defeated, it's a matter of time and grind on the current trajectory with no other forces doing anything worthwhile (fuck you hezbollah). Israel will hand it over to their puppets at the PA and will regularly intervene in any attempts to dislodge the PA's control there. This will cost Israel a lot but it won't matter as every other power in the region has made it clear that they're cucked.

Either a huge surprise happens and one of the players actually does something (unlikely now) or this is the path things are on.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The iron dome appears to be failing and Hezbollah spoke of gradual escalation, which we are indeed seeing. Israel is suffering heavy losses and their economy is faltering and desperately awaiting an aid package for an utterly paralyzed US congress to approve (the 320m biden sent ain't shit). Meanwhile, dockworkers are blocking military shipments in another country while PR slowly erodes for Israel.

This fight is far from over.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

I'm not seeing a gradual escalation at all. They're doing 2-4 potshots across the border per day. This might be with drone, laser guided missiles or just teams shooting surveillance infrastructure but it's hardly an escalation. It's extremely static.

Everything else is moot. The US will prop up their economy and the US will step in to ship weapons with C130s. I don't see how either of these are going to change the situation, they're good and hurt the US but they're going to keep Israel propped up no matter what.

Unless you think that somehow these pressures are going to result in the US telling Israel it must agree to a ceasefire or else its support ends, I can't see how this changes path. There's either that (unlikely) or there's a regional power stepping things up properly (unlikely), I read Hezbollah as having backed down, all they're doing is what's politically necessary for themselves in Lebanon

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We've entered that part of the war where all the uncertainties feel mostly settled and now it's just grind and I hate it.

All avenues for aid feel like they're closed. All pressures for a ceasefire feel closed. Best we can do is getting unions to strike against support.

It's interesting how we agree on this and yet have come to completely opposing conclusions, I think the end of Israel is becoming only more guaranteed by the day

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You have revolutionary faith greater than cynical defeatism and pessimism. It doesn’t matter how doomed their cause, the Palestinians never gave up. I don’t like posters here giving up after a month

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

Also, beyond faith, the IDF has demonstrated an incredible level of incompetence at a number of tasks

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

I'm not giving up after a month, nor am I giving up. I'm simply pessimistic about the current lack of options and see the grind as not being in our favour right now. We need something added in.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the end of Israel is becoming only more guaranteed by the day

By what pathway?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think the Egyptian people will let Cici stay in power without intervening.

Israeli escalation in Lebanon will cause Hezbollah to be more engaged.

Likewise, Iran.

This part is my speculation:

If you were in power in an Arab nation around Israel and you know Israel wants to take the whole peninsula. Do you want to fight today with Biden in charge or in 2024 with a Republican in charge? You're watching what Israel will do. Iraq knows how this goes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel (and this is vibes only tbf) that the large carrier group parked right outside are persuasive to Lebanon Egypt and Iran to maintain the status quo.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't disagree but that math is: do you want to fight Israel with the weakest US president in history commanding the carriers or do you want to fight Israel with a weak US president who is a lunatic believing the end times arrive only with a strong Israeli state?

I don't believe nukes are on the table with Biden. With any Republican especially trump, I think they are. If you start the war now and Biden loses, you get status quo air strikes in the region no matter what happens. Which is bad but not nuclear annihilation. In realpolitik terms, this also gives any regime legitimacy by blaming any internal social or material problems on US intervention.

The alternative for these countries is doing nothing but protest at the UN. The problem with that approach from their perspective is that it's ineffective. They have to recognize that Israel is a threat to all Arab nations and they know the people living in the region are aware that Palestinian genocide represents Israeli intentions. So making proposals and speeches at US controlled UN does nothing to satisfy the general population.

The hard math they have to face is: do they keep US support and US $$$ but lose the support of the people? Or do they go all in and think they can win? The other math they have to face is the past history of the US abandoning it's allies as soon as it's not politically profitable (or just profitable). If there's an uprising today and Cici toes the Israeli line, Egypt might get military aid and "peacekeepers". But if the US decides that Israeli support is unpalatable politically and Cici toes the Israeli line, he might get the Qaddafi treatment.

This is all armchair analysis from a white dudebro in the Midwest. Have a whole bag of salt with it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I agree.

But i still can't get out of my head the " making proposals and speeches at US controlled UN does nothing to satisfy the general population." Has been a perfectly acceptable means of governance for us in the west in relation to our democracies. Foreign policy only matters to a state in direct proportion to its control of its domestic audience. It's way cheaper and easier to just oppress some locals tranquilize others instead of trying to co-ordinate them all for war against an external force.

Consider that the " Big pretty talk , but slowly make worse anyway" approach is the very root of Democrat thinking for the last 50 years . And it's worked. The West has far more ability to stop this then the rest of the Levant . We are obviously not going to.

I can imagine that joe biden might make the money printer go brr enough that the Israeli orbit states will seriously consider hypocrisy and lib incompetence as the correct play. Just take the money and do some hand wave shit it's worked for us bro.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In sheer military terms, ability to blow things up, Israel almost certainly has the capacity to destroy North gaza on paper. However, guerrilla wars often defy what makes sense "on paper". Israel's actual capacity for losses could be much lower than their paper capacity for losses. External ceasefire pressure may grow. Hezbollah described an escalation ladder and is still firing shit. The Israeli economy is damaged by this level of mobilization. The fog of war is strong and we are much more likely to hear the positive spin by the idf than that of hamas.

The west collectively is quite good at destroying things but is very bad at achieving objectives. Cold comfort.

From the river to the sea!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I can't see how the IDF could run out of "capacity" before Hamas. A castle siege only has one outcome historically unless something intervenes and that's what this is going to be.

This still leaves these possibilities:

  1. North Gaza cleared after a lengthy siege and handed over to the PA for occupation.

  2. Ceasefire driven by US pressures (cost/supply).

  3. Ceasefire driven by Israel running out of "capacity".

These outcomes only drastically change in probability if someone steps things up.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plenty of castle sieges were won by the defenders. Why do you think castles existed lmao what are you talking about

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes but that was typically because they couldn't be held long enough to stop an army marching from elsewhere to intervene, which is a scenario we simply do not have unless a regional power wants to step things up.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

They clearly have the military capacity on paper, but they may not have that capacity in practice. Absorbing losses is hard, especially for Zionist semen retention warriors. I flagged a few other capacity factors that impact actual ability to maintain a military campaign long enough to achieve objectives.

Barring a few exceptions like the Tet offensive, guerilla war against a militarily superior foe, typically doesn't have military success by the guerrillas, but nevertheless guerilla movements can and do succeed in achieving political objectives.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

Israeli society is too divided and incredibly fragile. Israel was already bitterly divided before all this, and what should have been a rallying-behind-the-flag moment on October 7 didn't materialize at all. From what I've seen, protests within Israeli society have been growing. If the IOF cannot produce good results and fast and if Netanyahu doesn't or isn't made to fall on his own sword, Israeli society will completely fall apart from within.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

(fuck you hezbollah)

You are a racist clown. This is such a disgusting post.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You are a racist clown. This is such a disgusting post.

Grow the fuck up. Being pissed off at them for only doing the bare minimum has nothing to do with race. It could be Wagner, China or fucking anyone for all I care. And I'm not white.

I get that you're 110% support 110% of the time for any and all players in the region but that shouldn't close your eyes to doing realistic analysis and engaging with thing critically. You act like a tool to everyone that shows even slight criticism, it's fucking ridiculous behaviour for a communist, you don't need to have an emotional reaction and leap to absurd fucking insults whenever I say something you disagree with.

That speech the other day was a whole ass 90 minute political speech dedicated to justifying to their people and base of support why they won't do more than people are currently seeing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you choose to ignore resistance media and ignore the statements from resistance leaders and fester in defeatism then thats fine and no stink and I will ignore it.

If you want to come onto a public platform to say "fuck you Hezbollah" then I will assume you either know nothing about the last 23 years or you simply hate Lebanese Syrian and Palestinian because Hezbollah is one of the most important forces in the region. Hezbollah has defeated the occupation before twice and it will again. It also saved millions of Syrian from headchopping ISIS. Lebanon is under long term soft war and currently overwhelmed with Syrian refugee too yet Hezbollah holds down the front. It has also smuggled weapons for 17 years into Gaza and West Bank. When the Arab nation defeats America, Hezbollah and Hamas forces will meet in Al Quds.

Ignorance is fine I will ignore it. But this is not ignorance. Where is the rage for King Abdullah, Sisi, MBS, MBZ, Al Khalifa? Or is Hezbollah's fault that the KSA and Egypt are shooting down Yemeni missiles?

OK leftist Jabat Al Nusra.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

You're really obsessively hung up on people's race and it makes me absurdly uncomfortable. If this were happening in europe and it were, let's say the Greek communist party, who happened to have a military wing capable of acting to save people elsewhere in Europe but it was choosing not to do so because it was too scared of the damage the americans would do to them and their strength domestically in Greece I would tell them to go fuck themselves too.

I will criticise them until they do something and I will not stop criticising them until that happens.

Where is the rage for King Abdullah, Sisi, MBS, MBZ, Al Khalifa? Or is Hezbollah's fault that the KSA and Egypt are shooting down Yemeni missiles?

Their lack of action was of no surprise to anyone. Hezbollah are allowing half of Gaza to be sacrificed because they're too paralysed to act despite it being the most opportune moment to do so. There will not be another opportunity where the US stocks are drained of both supplies and political-will after supplying a 2 year pointless meatgrinder. The US will not be weaker than it is now in 1 year, or 2 or 3 years. It will recover its military stocks. There is never going to be a better time than now if it is ever going to happen.

The clear reluctance they have to do anything suggests to me that they are significantly more interested in how the losses they take might damage their power within Lebanon than saving anyone in Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The keyboard warrior knows more than the Joint Operations Room who are in an existential battle with 4 nuclear powers.

But you are the savior of Gaza then who knows better than the Resistance. That is racism I don't care if you are not a white.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are not a serious person.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You're right.

The keyboard warrior knows more than the Joint Operations Room who are in an existential battle with 4 nuclear powers. But you are the savior of Gaza then who knows better than the Resistance.

This was dark humor to illuminate the absurdity of her position.

Normally, due to my brain-damaged induced flat affect, I am routinely called too serious. It's a good reminder I should use emojis to emphasize clarity.