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Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said the reelection of former President Trump would be the “end of democracy” in an interview released Saturday by The Guardian.

“It will be the end of democracy, functional democracy,” Sanders said in the interview.

The Vermont senator also said in the interview that he thinks that another round of Trump as the president will be a lot more extreme than the first.

“He’s made that clear,” Sanders said. “There’s a lot of personal bitterness, he’s a bitter man, having gone through four indictments, humiliated, he’s going to take it out on his enemies. We’ve got to explain to the American people what that means to them — what the collapse of American democracy will mean to all of us.”

Sanders’s words echo those President Biden made in a recent campaign speech during which he said that Trump’s return to the presidency would risk American democracy. The president highlighted the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol in an attempt to cement a point about Trump and other Republicans espousing a kind of extremism that was seen by the world on that day.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

If all it ever took was one bad president then democracy has already ended and it was always just a matter of time.

This reminds of the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy when it describes a planet ruled by reptiles:

[It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see..." "You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?" "No," said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people." "Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy." "I did," said Ford. "It is." "So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't people get rid of the lizards?" "It honestly doesn't occur to them," said Ford. "They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates to the government they want." "You mean they actually vote for the lizards?" "Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course." "But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?" "Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in.]

👆 This Douglas Adams bit is the exact situation we find ourselves in now.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

One big lesson from Trump's presidency was that many of the rules we thought constrained politicians were only "Gentlemen's Agreements." They held up because everyone agreed to abide by them. When Trump walked in, refused to abide by them, and wasn't immediately struck by the political equivalent to lightning from heaven, all the politicians on the right decided that they could toss those pesky rules aside also.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

all the politicians on the right decided that they could toss those pesky rules aside also.

And Democrats chose to remain straitjacketed by devotion to decorum.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

It's a really convenient excuse to not fucking do anything.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wait... we could have been voting for lizards?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There have been a few dogs elected to Mayor

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

And at least three alcoholic goats, one after the other, in the same town.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

It's just a matter of time til we all die, too, but that doesn't mean we need to kill ourselves now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

SCP-682's home planet. It all makes sense now! Douglas Adams canon when, writers?