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[–] [email protected] 83 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

This logic destroys my fucking brain cells.

And trump/republicans would???!? What a fucking joke of an article to push lmao.

A reminder trump is a few years younger than Biden. Not by much.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (3 children)

If Trump drops dead from being old, bully for us. If Biden drops dead but Trump doesn't we are fucked. That is the issue and risk. That is why we want a younger candidate. Why take the risk when you can avoid i?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Why?

Because Biden is still the person with the best odds to defeat Trump in an election.

That's really all there is to it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is likely true but after the election does it matter? Trump likely won't survive long enough for the next election anyways. This will finally leave everyone looking for real candidates.

Who knows, by then the Republicans might actually have a platform they can campaign on that doesn't revolve around MAGA. I'm not holding my breath for that last one though. One can dream.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

They'll probably just keep running an AI Trump. Doesn't even matter if the stormfront-sourced training set isn't big enough because even the real Trump can blather on about changing Pennsylvanias name, toilets not flushing hard enough, and somehow injecting UV light into your body to fight viruses. AI fever dreams won't even register as anything weird.

Covfefe.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's funny, when comedians imitate Trump they're always more coherent. Because you have to make some sense to make a proper joke.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

What's incredible to me is that Seth Meyers' impersonation of Trump is nothing like Stephen Colbert's impersonation of Trump and yet you can tell both of them are impersonating Trump without being told.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I'd rather run a younger candidate now and save the incumbent advantage for 2028.

It's reasonable to think that the 2028 Republican candidate might be more of a threat.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

I disagree. There have been LOTS of attempts to reproduce that Trump funk, but they all fall flat. I was far more worried about DeSantis. He's modeled his whole persona after Trump and had quite a bit of success passing Trump policies in Florida... but he fell flat on the national stage. I can't tell you why. He doesn't seem like more or less of a conman. He's equally sleezy and seems to have the same policy goals. But there's clearly something the Qult sees in Don that Ron lacks.

It's looking to me like the Trumpers are ride-or-die until Trump dies. I don't know what will happen after that, but I don't think they'll seemlessly integrate back into any normal political party. Hopefully, they'll form their own little ultra-right party and split the conservative vote permanently.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This doesn't make any sense to me. If Biden dies and Trump doesn't then we will still have the VP. By the time the next election rolls around, assuming Trump loses, Trump will have already faded into obscurity.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

They're saying that if Biden died right now, President Harris would lose to Trump. Which she almost certainly would.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Eh. I don't think so. She's not Hillary Clinton she knows how to campaign and I'm pretty sure a dead fish could beat Trump after his last term.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I hope so, but after his rise to power I don't know what to think, I just know we can't get complacent. But I have no idea what the fuck the American people want so I have no idea if Harris would be seen as a good candidate by the non trump demographic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

According to polls she's just outside the margin of error. (Usually about 3 percent). Polls that have her farther out also have Biden losing.

So that seems horrible but politics is weird and the act of swearing her in will actually bump her in the polls. Any competent politician will turn that into a "rally" moment. And this close to the election they can ride that bump straight into November.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

I also want this, but it will not fucking happen this year. Both sides don’t play fair, just look at what they did to Bernie Sanders when he was fucking running.

Personally I was a fan of Yang too, but as far as I can tell, this machine seems to only have 2 gears. You can’t expect to try and hot swap one of those out without getting your fingers punched.

Local elections were always more effective, I think everyone could probably agree with that