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[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is a composition effect. Democratic candidates who run for safer, more left-wing constituencies feel free to propose more radical left-wing policies, especially if their main threats are other democrats during primaries. They then go on to win because they're not running in competitive elections. You can use the same reasoning to conclude that Republicans who attack abortion and socialism do better in elections.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I don't buy it. Red states hate billionaires even more than blue states. Centrist Democrats have nothing to offer to Republican voters to change their minds. Progressives speak directly to the economic issues that plague red states.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean, red states elected a billionaire because he was a billionaire.

But Centrist Democrats think that if they just kick progressives harder, they'll gain the favor of the three remaining moderate Republicans.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

They elected a billionaire because he attacked other billionaires. He voices their rage at the "elitists" in Washington, and he pretends to be one of them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think they hate the "generic billionaire", but are they any actual billionaires they hate?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Bill Gates and George Soros are a pretty obvious examples.

The only notable counter-examples are rich celebrities that give them permission to be shitty, like Trump and Elon.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

And they love oil barons, and bankers are their heroes, and Jeff bezos is soooo cool with his penis rockets.
They really love billionaires more than they hate them. They just don't like the charity ones.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Red states hate billionaires even more than blue states

(citation needed)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

They often just call them elitists, bankers, or "Jews".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's not supporting evidence.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

“That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.”

Where is the evidence to the contrary? That was the original assertion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

No, it wasn't.

I asked for evidence for a claim. You didn't give one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

That only proves that they hate Jews more than blue states.

Republicans equating "elite bankers" with Jews, and then you equating that to billionaires, doesn't actually make them the same thing you know..