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Why do I lack the ability to trust white people who claim to be progressive or leftist? (hexbear.net)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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When a person of color, especially if they're black like me, affirms their support for causes such as queer liberation, feminism, animal rights, or socialism, I immediately feel that I can believe, with minimal doubt, that they're truly convicted and principled in what they're advocating for.

However, when a white person claims to support leftism, until my skepticism is proven wrong, I immediately assume they're a dishonest and performative libshit. I then proceed to interact with them with hefty amounts of caution. If my assumptions are proven true, I'm never shocked.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Idk I try not to view people so suspiciously unless they've given me reason to. It's worked out alright so far.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

unless they've given me reason to

Being white. Being white is a reason. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I don't judge people based on things they can't change

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Don't view it as a "judgement" as much as you should view it as reasonable skepticism. Is being "white" inherently a bad trait? Absolutely not, especially if you're looking at this very superficially. However, it's important to consider that "white" is more than just ancestry, and it's embedded in a social construct that has enabled oppression and racial strife for a significantly long time throughout history. This means that there is absolute validity in the truth that white people can be much more half-hearted in supporting leftist causes than POC because not being able to view things from a lens of intersectionality is absolutely a hindrance to leftist ideology.

Experience matters, and being white brings an experience of racial privilege that makes you blind to how bad the plight of POC can be. It's crucial to view this less as a "mean, rude, racist judgement 😡" and more as a "wake-up call and invitation to white people gaining awareness on how to be so much better".

To condense this matter down to "You're judging people by innate, immutable characteristics like race!" without taking into account the implications and intentions of such a sentiment is seeming willfully disingenuous.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

However, it's important to consider that "white" is more than just ancestry, and it's embedded in a social construct that has enabled oppression and racial strife for a significantly long time throughout history. This means that there is absolute validity in the truth that white people can be much more half-hearted in supporting leftist causes than POC because not being able to view things from a lens of intersectionality is absolutely a hindrance to leftist ideology.

getting a lot out of the facts machine today

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Doesn't stop Anglos from judging the tone of my skin, the size of my lips, or the coarseness of my hair when they first see me. I'm just returning the favor at this point. The experiment is failed-- the only way we can coexist is if we govern ourselves under our own self-determination. The plantation empire will never be worthy of our labors; hasn't even started paying us back for all that they stole.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

They make machines that change it. If they were real allies they would go get a tan.