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cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/3679424

“Criticizing Israel is criticizing Jewish right to exist”

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

israelis shouldn't exist because israel shouldn't exist

doesn't mean you have to die, you'll just be palestinian instead, or you can fuck off to new jersey or something

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

or you can fuck off to new jersey or something

*BACK to new jersey

[–] [email protected] 55 points 7 months ago

conflating Zionism with Judaism is antisemitic

[–] [email protected] 53 points 7 months ago

come grab a flag and join the rest of us

Showing up with a palestinian flag and that poster going "no, not like that"

[–] [email protected] 48 points 7 months ago

If your country stops existing then you disappear. I'm sorry, I don't make the rules.

Everyone alive in Russia today was born after 1991.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 7 months ago

When do a DNA test, it tells me l'm Jewish because we are that genetically distinct.

I don't think that's true. And no, 23andMe is NOT a credible source for human DNA analysis

[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 months ago (1 children)

[Calls for Immediate Ceasefire in Gaza], "No, not that specific government policy."

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

[Calls for right of return for Palestinians] "No not that one either"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

You may only criticize boring shit like Israel's tax code or legislative procedure.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago

Average Israeli: gets a DNA test "That's weird. It says I'm from Poland"

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago

Yeah good luck getting that DNA test in Israel

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Come back to America where you belong

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Woman with a heavy Brooklyn accent tries to convince you she's native to the Levant and that hummus has been passed down in her family for generations

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Israel does not have a right to exist because it's stolen land. I hate these lying fucking pigs.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Israel does not have a right to exist because it's stolen land.

Honestly this; many of the people they're exterminating either previously lived in the lands they're currently living in, or are the children or grandchildren of the people who were living where their (the zionists) houses now reside. The very exact human beings they displaced, or their children or grandchildren, they are now exterminating, when they themselves or their parents took flights over from Europe or America to now reside in occupied Palestine.

And Western media is manned by either incompetent fools or disingenuous propagandists (although obviously disingenuous propagandists) who parrot Israel's argument of 'other nations should take them in'; Occupied Palestine is their home, why should they leave? Let the zionists leave, no one forced them to get on an airplane and go live on stolen land, and what's more, no one forced them to demolish existing Palestinian towns and villages so they could set up their zionist cities in those areas, there's lot of empty places in occupied Palestine they could've set up their cities.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We are that genetically distinct

No you are not. No humans are. Scientifically, there is no such thing as race.

Jews in particular, are a fairly diverse group of people. In my (admittedly weak) understanding, most of these DNA tests just assume that people who have a semitic haplo group, in combination with certain genes most common in eastern or southern europe, must have a Jewish family background. This methodology is obviously extremely eurocentric, which is probably why these freaks love it.

It’s also worth pointing out that those same semitic haplo groups are also extremely common among Palestinians, because Palestinians are indigenous to the region. I guess those “distinct” genetics only grant you the right to a nation-state if you have some european mutations attached.

I know I’m preaching to the choir but this is just blood and soil ethnonationalism with an extremely thin veneer of progressivism. Even if an ethnic group was somehow consistently and measurably distinct from the rest of humanity, it wouldn’t somehow justify the displacement and destruction of any other group of people. Genetics are obviously completely irrelevant to the shit that isreal is doing and the fact that this person thinks it serves as some kind of justification only exposes their blatant fascism. This whole line of argument is just so disgusting and despicably racist.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So criticising Nazi Germany is actually bigotry towards germans and christians. Thanks, zionist fuck!

Alao, the notion that any protest this dumb arsehole participates in achieving anything is almost as hilarious as the illegal occupying entity having any legitimacy.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I didn't like Germans very much anyway.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

I positively detest them but humour me there.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

There wouldn't be an issue if Israel wasn't an ethnostate from it's inception. The appeal to ancestral claim through DNA testing is proof of how fucked up their worldview is. Saying that Palestinians deserve to live in peace doesn't imply that Jews should be killed.

Criticize the individual politicians and their policies not the people as a whole

I mean, I don't think ever single Israeli is unredeemable, but the entire system is rotten. The only real debate within Israel is wether they should ignore the hostages to do ethnic cleansing or slow down the ethnic cleansing to save the hostages.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago

Ironically her comment is kinda anti-semitic itself, by trying to tie in a zionist entity that weaponizes and purposefully exacerbates anti-semitism, with Judaism.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

I don't like overcomplicating my motives, so my calculus on the isreal/gaza situation is a pretty simple "gut feeling" sort of affair: Anyone who talks about Arabs like a conservative uncle from my country the day after 9/11 is pretty much guaranteed to be full of shit

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago

Do Zionists know how cultlike they sound even to people who might be inclined to be sympathetic to Israel otherwise? Goddamn.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

criticizing palestine is criticizing palestinian right to exist

criticizing russia is criticizing russian right to exist

criticizing china is criticizing chinese right to exist

criticizing my doodoo ass is criticizing my shit's right to exist

in fact criticizing anything is criticizing reality's right to exist. no more criticizing anything.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Supporting Jewish right to exist is when you support “Jewish” politicians who say Hitler wasn’t genocidal until he met with Palestinians and that Palestinians deserve Aushwitz

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

"It's actually so fucked because this corporation said a thing"

The form of the argument is indistinguishable from white ethnostate rhetoric. I wouldn't necessarily argue it's any dumber that they said it's because their DNA test kit said something because the concept of whiteness is already pretty fucking dumb and American. In either scenario your conception is based on commodification and is inseparable from the political. They beg the question.

At the end of the day isntrael I believe in a one state solution that doesn't concern Isfiction