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[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

A saying I saw a couple years ago that sums this up well and also did wonders for my online quality of life.

"Don't waste time arguing with people John Brown would have shot."

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago

Recent experience I had on Instagram (🤮):

Me: states basic and easy to understand take on capitalism, so simple that even some right-wingers would agree with it

Chud: Explain your argument.

Me: No thanks. [Pretending the chud is asking me to explain in good faith, to "learn" rather than to do a "gotcha" and pick apart my explanation] Thankfully, there are many resources that talk about this elsewhere for you to educate yourself. I'm just one person, so go forth!

Chud: Ha, so you're telling me to do my own research because you have no arguments! Owned!

Me: No, it wasn't an argument to begin with.

They really want to play into their Ben Shapiro archetype LARP so bad, and they're already operating under the premise that you're wrong as soon as they detect you saying something even remotely leftist. No matter how detailed, thorough, and thought-out your explanation is, they will find some way to try to refute it, even if they'd be extremely wrong and have to grasp at straws in the process.

Do not enable this. Disengage immediately.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Dunking is not debating

Clown on them and call them an idiot it's fun

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I'm ex-libertarian, so a lot of the times I dust off my old anti-SJW talking points and just reverse engineer them against CHUDs. It's fun using their own intentional logical fallacies against them

  1. Tone policing them is hilarious because they love to take the bait and say something along the lines of 'U mad bro?' Whenever they do, I'll just say "you won't convince me of anything with that attitude."

  2. Compare them to you: "You're just like the SJWs, you can't fight hate with hate! You're not being the person New Guy* knows you can be!"

  3. Find any excuse to automatically claim victory, or any excuse to not listen to them.

  4. Remember the alt-right playbook? We can always use their arguments against them

  • For context, New Guy is a CHUD meme where they prop up this strawman from Mallorie and they use him to pretend like they have a heart, sometimes done to tone police the left.
[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago

Debate me wojak-nooo

I don't feel like it gigachad

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

your community

my what

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Dont argue with ppl here most importantly.

It may not be the most productive but i do love saying horrible things to the libs who wander in here

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I disagree because if you leave dipshit views unchallenged they spread more readily than if they're met with a compelling rebuttal. Arguing online isn't about changing the mind of a hostile stranger, it's about influencing the dozens of randos witnessing the interaction. I spent a lot of time on /r/conspiracy arguing about socialism and it was never to convince the other guy and over that time I had dozens of PMs thanking me for exposing them to different views and if each of them goes on to educate in kind well that's literally the parable of the sower

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Agree with this. Don't drain your energy by engaging in a month-long exchange with some chud in the comments section of a Naruto AMV from 2009.

But when meemaw posts some transphobic meme, make sure the whole family sees you calling her out.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Yeah I mean consider the visibility of the argument. If it's just you and some dipshit slapfighting in a place nobody will see, cut it out. But if it's some front page reddit thread with high engagement? Other people will see what you say and might be influenced.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

I'll admit from time to time I'm particularly salty and will argue with people but it's a pretty rare occurance. 99% of the time I will just mute/block and move on.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

debate club vs. the minecraft community

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

or "could i just show you what forms my opinion instead ?"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Damn sometimes it do be takin' a while to get thru to the people capitalism has thrown away tho