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Old person traits (pawb.social)
submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 
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[–] [email protected] 100 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (30 children)

My old person trait is a belief that anyone that works full time should be able to aspire to own their own home, support their wife and kids and still have a little left over to save at the end of the month.

Edit: It kind of sucks that I wrote a comment about making work pay like it used to and people are arguing about whether I'm a mysoganist that wants women back in the kitchen. (I'm not, I'm happy for women to work as much as they want too, it'd just be nice for double income homes to be doing it out of choice and thriving because of it, rather than having to do it out of necessity.)

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Whoa there. Won't anyone ever think of the c~~hildren~~-level executives? How could they afford a new Lamborghini or a new yacht when they also have to pay you?

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Cars should have buttons and knobs. Not complicated menus and touchscreens. That’s not a “I don’t like change” thing, it’s a safety thing.

Hell yes I should own it if I pay for it.

Event tickets shouldn’t cost a month’s pay or more, fuck middleman businesses that do nothing except price gouge you as a “service.”

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Exactly, I've railed on this exact topic.

a screen offers no tactile feedback.

You can learn what buttons feel like, and where they are (and the same for knobs) so yo ucan operate your vehicle without having to take your eyes off the road.

Tablets are sleek and shiny, and fundamentally horrible as a car interface.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don’t necessarily have an issue with the screens. The problems are:

Commonly accessed features like choosing a media source, setting environmental controls, or even lighting, are buried several “clicks” deep. These need to be surface-level and need zero distraction from driving to interact with.

The “touch” part of touch-screen often sucks. Every car I’ve driven with touch interface requires too long of a press and/or doesn’t pick up the press. So you have to look away from driving to repeatedly mash a touch control. That’s not safe.

The touch area is often too small, such as arrow buttons to raise or lower volume, skip a song, or change temperature. Not only do they not register the touch, they’re too small. Double whammy for distraction.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

and theres no tactile feed back. you have no idea where your finger is on the screen, So you have to take your eyes off the road to futz with a stupid menu in a stupid interface.

a button/knob? You can just reach, feel, and operate without ever taking your eyes or attention off the road.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Agree completely with the first 3, but my young person/introvert trait is that I think I should be able to get anything, including paying my bills, to work without having to talk to someone on the phone like I'm my boomer dad.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately now it seems to be the worst of both worlds: companies don’t have a contact email, but only a phone number and sometimes a useless chat bot. When I finally work up the courage to use the phone, I have to go through a long automated menu system, and/or wait for half an hour.

Once I actually get a human on the phone it’s never as bad as my mind made it out to be -but I would still very much prefer an email.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Also in a lot of cases it's simply a waste of an employee's time to answer basic questions on the phone all day long. Robots should be able to do that better. But I do agree that customers should be trapped on hold for 30 minutes.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

But I do agree that customers should be trapped on hold for 30 minutes.

..You've worked in customer service, haven't you? 😛

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 7 months ago (3 children)

My old person trait is that UI shouldn't change unexpectedly when you are trying to click or touch something.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (5 children)

it should not change unexpectedly, period.

I don't want to install an update and have the ui completely change on me because some dev wanted to pad out his resume by starting a new project on the fresh-framework-of-the-day.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Yes.

Pointless UI changes are a fucking atrocity, cause they are always more complicated and more informational overload than the previous design, while being more resource intensive and slower.

KISS is a motto for a reason. Unfortunately its the stupid people that seem to make the decisions and don't register that they are the ones KISS is directed at.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I feel like this is a product of a lack of UX team or outsourcing it. When engineers are left to make a UI... they make what works (barely), not what is easy to use...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As a developer I need to be reigned in when it comes to design. I don’t know shit and have learnt that there are conventions for a reason.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 months ago

My old person trait is a bad back

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

None of these are actually old person traits. These are just things that should be happening automatically.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago

That's exactly what an old person would say!

[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

my old person trait is that I think I should be able to afford college, a car, and a home, on a part time job, like our grandparents could.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago (1 children)

my old person trait is wanting to overthrow capitalism and give everyone basic necessities

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago

Don't fall for framing of these type of things as a flaw in you. None of these are unreasonable ends for the young or the old. This is not about young/old, it's about wealthy/not wealthy - the greedy fucks making these decisions are trying to make you casually take a side in a generational conflict so that you turn your pitchforks away from them.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My old person trait is that i keep butterscotch in my pockets in case grandchildren stop by.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

We have a winner!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago

I don't have any old person traits! Now get off my lawn, damn kids!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

My old person trait is not liking it when someone doesn’t take out their wireless earplugs when I talk to them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Why should they when they can lower the sound to hear you perfectly ?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Mine have microphones for listening to you. Deal with it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

My old person trait is wishing my neighbors would stay out of my yard and stop breaking noise ordinance.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

These aren't "old person traits", these are you and I being socialized into believing that we don't deserve the basic functionality of products and services (because we need to squeeze out slight additional profit margin for the capitalists running/ruining these things).

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (7 children)

My old person trait is that I think people should understand the technology they use in order to be allowed to use it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (12 children)

To what degree? I know how to plug inputs into my tv and turn it on, I have no idea how the TV actually works. I know how to flip a light switch, I don't understand how to wire a house.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The last one can be accomplished by simply not paying the bill. They'll even call you!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I am waiting for the sweet release of death

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My old person trait is that I believe fire is made out of magic and it scares me.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Don't phrase reasonable expectations as an old person trait, or you're essentially saying it's hip to get bent over for the profit of others.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

[X] all of the above

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