Pretty much just Lemmy.
I never understood the attraction of twitter, so mastodon doesn't appeal to me either.
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Exactly how I feel about Twitter. I get the appeal but it just ain't for me
I never understood the attraction of twitter, so mastodon doesn't appeal to me either.
I won't try to convince you, but I am exactly like you, I still use Twitter from time to time (although not as Elon wants, I use this version) anyway, still just use it from time to time, but I gave it a chance to Mastodon (Moshidon and Megalodon clients) and I really liked to follow hashtags, I think I find more interesting content that way compared to whatever Twitter algorithm wants to show me, with that said it is not perfect, but it is definitely an improvement because, not everyone is advertising themselves there, so you pretty much need to work your way to curate your stuff (which as I have said, found it better) and it is not very different than following communities here, I dislike that even when I have filtered out languages many foreign languages still leak in the posts (something that I have not suffered here).
And even when both Mastodon and Lemmy are a shadow compared to Twitter and Reddit I still find more "niche" stuff in Mastodon than Lemmy, for example I have had some talks about Hotel Dusk and The Last Window (DS games) there and I don't recall having that interaction here, but that could just be because Mastodon might be more popular and has a higher user base (just as the corporation ones are).
https://github.com/crimera/piko
A link that's not a direct link to an apk for those of us who don't know what the hell we'd be installing.
I mean, I go on twitter daily, but only to follow artists, and, like... game devs for short form news updates.
Not whatever... most people apparently use it for.
I also use userscripts that prevent the 'for you' tab from ever showing up or being selected.
I used to not understand it either. Now I understand that for normal people, it is an RSS reader where you just get notified when the sources you follow have something to say. For celebrities and organizations it is an advertising platform where they can remind their followers of their existence and tell them what they are doing.
Mastodon and rarely pixelfed
Can you really call Matrix "fediverse software" if it doesn't implement ActivityPub and therefore doesn't federate with the majority of Fediverse instances?
The fediverse is an umbrella term. I don't know that anyone thinks of it as limited to activitypub.
Matrix might not interact with activitypub platforms, but it's definitely federated, and definitely contains a universe of content.
I've found a couple active "spaces" (the equivalent of discord servers, a collection of users and rooms, not just one group chat) that are great.
I access all that from my own instance, thanks to federation.
Fediverse is more than ActivityPub, it's also Matrix, Nostr, Bluesky
PieFed is my favorite lemmy type software and the recent subscribe to post feature is great. Phanpy for mastodon is the best mastodon client hands down and Threaded (open source mastodon app that looks like Threads) is shaping up to be great too.
Mastodon, Peertube, PixelFed, and (unfortunately) Threads. [I'm forced to have a Threads account because of my job in media. I'm on Instagram and Twitter for the same reason]
I'm also super excited for Loops, but it hasn't launched yet.
I'm sort of aware of Mastodon and occasionally click a link to it. Otherwise just Lemmy and even that doesn't gain much from federation afaict. I can't exactly say the fediverse vision is falling since I don't really understand what it was supposed to be in the first place. But I don't see much to get excited about.
The fact that you're not even noticing the federation shows how effective it is ;)
You're probably browsing communities that aren't on Lemmy.world often without realising, I'm here replying to you from wetdry.world (a mastodon instance), and the OP also doesn't come from Lemmy.world
The cool thing about this is that no single server, company, or entity in general gets to decide over the wider fediverse, because everything is spread out and shared between thousands of independent servers. This is completely opposite to what traditional social media services have built.
I'm aware of other Lemmy servers (I'm also on .ml) but as we saw with hexbear and other defederations, instead of having just one gatekeeper to satisfy, you now have to satisfy N of them simultaneously. I hate Spez and Reddit these days but it still feels less constrained there than it does here. I miss Usenet.
There's no gatekeeper to satisfy because even when one server defederates from you, you are still able to curate and protect your own community.
Personally, who cares if there's some Nazis and trolls less in my feed? 🥴
What is the point of federation then? An old fashioned single hosted forum is a lot simpler. I'd rather that any filtering be done on the client side.
An old fashioned single hosted forum is a lot simpler.
Yes but also good luck trying to get everyone to sign up for the same forum website, especially since most forums are for some specific interest. The point is that it'd be really nifty if there was a way to connect all these forums together so you wouldn't have to sign up for 1000 different websites to talk to everyone - and that's what the Fediverse does :)
This also makes it much better for users, as they can choose an instance (forum) that fits what they want without being in a closed garden. They can choose based on their interests, their desired rules, their desired mods/admins. The Fediverse is about choice! :)
Well, let me go by example: The strength of E-Mail lies in the fact that its a robust standard that, instead of siloing users into their platforms, brings people together into one single userbase.
Similarly with federation in social media, this makes userbases not compete but collaborate. If I created an ActivityPub-Powered project right now, I'd have to convince nobody to use it and still be part of a community.
One difference however is that social media is public. As the person that runs the server, you do have to put in some measures to make sure that your users are actually feeling safe. The most extreme of these measures is defederation, where you just completely cut off another server, but there's also other ways to limit other servers, like for example, hiding their accounts by default in say the "federated" feed in Mastodon and co.
I didn't feel unsafe on Reddit. I know there were jerks there but I mostly stayed in my niche technical communities and the jerks stayed in theirs. If on Lemmy you need the admins to keep them out of your feed, that is a problem with the software. You should be able to manage your feed better.
It was generally enough to moderate at the level of subreddits or Lemmy communities, rather than blocking whole servers.
I'm happy to have my server block misinformation and hate. I can do it myself just as easily, but it's great to be able to say my community doesn't put up with or tolerate it. Their hateful message doesn't deserve any weight. It's disingenuous or based on false premises that are unshakeable via social media aggregator or whatever this is. There are just some communities that are toxic hate factories. Maybe some people need that in their lives? I personally don't think it's healthy, but they'll just take that as having my head in the sand or whatever.
Meanwhile, new communities are born, and I'm happy to join with them and see new ideas and content.
It's great that misinformation and hate are blocked, until someone decides that something you want to see is misinformation or hate. Server admins like drinking Coke? No prob. But maybe you drink Pepsi, and suddenly all the Pepsi-drinking communities are blocked. How is that safe space working out for you then? As a more real example, a blog that I like got demonetized by Google (reversed after some journalists intervened) because it published some opinions that Google's algorithm (incorrectly) decided were misinformation. Not good.
On Reddit, I mostly hung out on fairly sedate subreddits, but there was one that I occasionally visited that got blocked for posts containing, shall we say, more extreme forms of sarcasm than the genteel shitposting than we see here on Lemmy. It seems that Reddit decided to block its Trump subreddit, while simultaneously blocking a bunch of unrelated ones (collateral damage) to make it look like they weren't being political. The Trump one really was misinformative and hateful but overall I think it would have been fine to leave everything alone. Even with the Trump subreddit gone, Trump is still likely to become president again, so blocking the subreddit wasn't the answer.
I see some attraction to having a standardized API for forums to offer as an alternative to web UI's, but I don't like the Lemmy software all that much (it's too much like Reddit, i.e. oriented towards memes and link propagation rather than discussion), and I don't like social media (defined as systems where other people vote on what you see). I prefer traditional text-only discussion that is purely chronologically ordered with no voting or ranking. Also it should be fine to have private forums. There are private subreddits and private youtube channels and there is private email after all.
Anyway I got into another discussion like this a while back, where I gave my .02 on how I thought Lemmy should work (basically all subscriptions, blocking, ranking etc. should be done in client software that is completely separate from the backend, though it could itself be running on a server of its own). I don't feel like rehashing that. But basically, Usenet was great until spam killed it, so I would just fix a few things about it and try to resuscitate it.
Matrix
I have a mastodon account, but I use it more like an RSS feed (which I also have). The microblogging format isnt very appealing to me for discussion so I do that here.
I pop into my Akkoma account every so often. It has all the same content as Mastodon but it does a good job of back-filling replies so I see more of the conversation.
Kbin
This, also mbin
I find mbin completely overrun with Blue MAGA.
I like Kbin being the same, without registering mbin downvotes.
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Mastodon
Mastodon, Matrix.
I love Pixelfed. I always feel happier after using it.
About to reopen a matrix account. Mostly for tech support.
Didn't really like Twitter, Mastodon holds no interest really.
I do like Lemmy a lot but mostly awaiting a search engine and the rest of the Reddit subs moving over.
Maybe there's room for a fediverse fb in my life but I don't see the world moving over anytime soon. I loathe fb but find some of the groups too useful to leave.
Just Lemmy, and I only moved to Lemmy because of the Reddit protests.
The only reason I use Twitter is so I can follow Sonic and Project 06. I don't think anyone's copypasting that to Mastodon.
I have a kbin account (still like the default UI a lot), but apart from a few microblog posts that are Mastodonish it's been the same as Lemmy for me. I did just set up a Mastodon and Pixelfed, though the latter in particular is mostly to host images to be posted on other platforms.
Mastodon and bookwyrm pretty regularly.
Peertube once in a while.
Mastodon, Firefish, Mbin, Writefreely
The first is like twitter, what are the other 3? I’ve never heard of them.
All of them 😃
It wasn't too long ago that I bit the bullet and decided to get involved in social media. All my social media accounts except for the Discord account I made 2 years ago are only a few weeks or a few months old at most.
Mastodon via Ivory. It’s a better experience than Twitter ever was. Great features, nothing locked behind a paywall and the public at large hasn’t really found it yet (thank god).
Iceshrimp, a mastodon fork, and a little bit of matrix. I’d like to have a look at pixelfed one of those day just to see if it seems a successful alternative to youknowwhat.
Mastodon. The people are kinda weird, in different ways than I am weird, but if I post consistently enough I'll build a community or something. I bounce between there and Twitter cause neither community is 100% satisfying
MBin, cause I want to be able to access Lemmy without being on Lemmy
Pixelfed, and occasionally Mastodon. I love the Pixelfed community, it always seems just very chill and focused on making great pictures.
Catodon! It's the best microblog UI. So wonderfully designed.
I operate:
- Mastodon - https://urda.social - @[email protected]
- Lemmy / Link Aggregation - https://lebowski.social - [email protected] - @[email protected]
I use in addition:
- Matrix, but I’d like to better understand this software before I self host.
- RSS, I use NetNewsWire to read mine.
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