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This seemed to be popular information when I posted it (ahem) "elsewhere". Thought it might be welcome to have here.

If you're trying to keep track of where we're at in the Trump prosecutions:

Updated 8/16/2023

Georgia
13 state felonies
Election Interference
Investigation
Indictment - <- You Are Here
Arrest - Defendants have until noon, Friday, 8/25 to surrender voluntarily.
Fani Willis stated she expects arraignments on September 5th.
Trial - Fani Willis requested a trial date of 3/4/2024, one day before Super Tuesday. 21 days before the current trial date in the New York case.
Conviction
Sentencing

Washington, D.C.
4 federal felonies
January 6th Election Interference
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
(DOJ lawyer Jack Smith has requested a trial date of 1/2/2024, Trump lawyers have yet to supply a counter date. The judge will announce a final date on 8/28)
Trial
Conviction
Sentencing

New York
34 state felonies
Stormy Daniels Payoff
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - March 25th, 2024
Conviction
Sentencing

Florida
40 federal felonies
Top Secret Documents charges
Investigation
Indictment
Original indictment was for 37 felonies.
3 new felonies were added on July 27, 2023.
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - May 20, 2024
Conviction
Sentencing

Other grand juries, such as for the documents at Bedminster, have not been announced.

The E. Jean Carroll trial for sexual assault and defamation where Trump was found liable and ordered to pay $5 million before immediately defaming her again resulting in a demand for $10 million is not listed as it's a civil case and not a crimimal one. That trial date is currently set for January 15th, the same day as the Iowa caucus.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think this is the first time I realized he is now facing 91 felony charges. If he is convicted for even a fraction of them it means a life sentence at his age. I imagine he is pretty desperate at this point.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Excellent info graphic I saw earlier today: The average US president has been charged with 2 felonies.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Life sentence for people like Giuliani as well, who is 79. I expect more flips than a Waffle House when the juries start marching in.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if... he goes to jail, that is.

seems most likely he'll be under house arrest. which is a joke.

[–] Ubermeisters 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He will lokely get epstein'd if that happens. He's got too big of a mouth

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

91 felonies.

so.... anybody know any law-historians that might actually have a real answer as to who holds the single most felony convictions? (and would it be too low-class to take bets on if trump takes the record?)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Serial killer Samuel Little confessed to 93 murders so he's for sure on the leaderboard

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Hmm. sounds like we need to drum up a few counts of witness tampering... got plenty of evidence, too.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

This is like seeing a trailer for an awesome new movie that doesn't come out for another 6 months. The anticipation is killing me!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Super Tuesday 😂😂😂😂

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

And the E. Jean Carroll civil lawsuit is the same day as the Iowa caucus. 1/15.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

SUPER DUPER MONDAY!!!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought this was supposed to be January 2nd. Or is this for another trial? It's so hard to keep track of them all...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

1/2 is the first proposed date for the 1/6 trial in D.C.

Trump lawyers countrered that they wanted 3.5 years, which nobody is taking seriously.

Judge is due to announce the date on 8/28.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

My favorite feature of this is the judge has threatened to speed the trial up the more Trump interferes. All judges should do this all the time from now on.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As someone who is not as familiar with the legal system as I probably should be: Does anyone have any guesses as to how long is this Georgia trial going to take? What if it is set 21 days before the New York trial but drags out longer? He can't be in 2 places at once, are there laws that one of the courts is required to adjust dates or could a judge be a dick and refuse to do so? Also, what happens if he would get sentenced to prison for one crime before another trial? Would they just ship him out of prison for his trial? What if he is sentenced to prison in Georgia but has to go to trial in another state, where does he stay during the trial, in a state or federal prison? Also, is it truly possible that we could have a reality where the president of the United States is in a state prison in Georgia during his term?

Not that I believe for one moment that he will ever spend a night behind bars. I will believe it when it happens.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think even people familiar with the legal system are going to have no clue because we've never tried a former President before and certainly not one as delay prone as this one.

Looking at other GA RICO cases though, Fani Willis did the Atlanta public schools cheating trial with 12 defendants, it was the longest trial in Georgia history and took 8 months. There were originally 35 defendants and all but 12 took plea deals. She called over 100 witnesses.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Public_Schools_cheating_scandal