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Give yourselves a round of applause 🖖 (sh.itjust.works)

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Star Trek fans have held the national stereotype of being way too rabid about things for decades but they’re probably the nicest fan base in all of science fiction and the one least likely to have a large faction of them absolutely lose it over a torpedo being fired by a woman or dumb shit like that

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[-] [email protected] 117 points 3 weeks ago

anyone that tries to say star trek has "gone woke" or some stupid shit like that clearly isn't a fan of it and just trying to rile up stuff. I mean come on... how can someone say that and have watched the shows LOL

[-] [email protected] 78 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, its not like Star Trek suddenly went woke, its been woke. First ever TV kiss between mixed races was between Kirk and Uhura. Scandalous.

[-] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago

That's actually a common misconception. Not to downplay the significance of what Shatner and Nichols pulled off to get around the various censors (ruining alternate takes and such), but many TV shows did it before Star Trek.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_interracial_kiss_on_television

[-] [email protected] 32 points 3 weeks ago

Shatner is on that list multiple times. That man had an agenda.

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

I think it was the first one that was both broadcast nationally in a primetime slot and where the actors were easily identifiable as having different ethnicities on a tiny TV screen. Would explain the misconception.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

I think it certainly was the most noticeable of anything shown on American TV at that point. But the British had us beat by years.

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[-] [email protected] 61 points 3 weeks ago

[-] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago

Not to mention the first black woman officer and the first black/white kiss.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

the first black/white kiss.

...in a drama series. This was the first:

That's Lynn Fontanne kissing Sammy Davis, Jr. at the 1965 Emmys.

As far as the first interracial kiss, that does have a star trek connection- Desi kissing Lu in 1951.

On top of that, Shatner himsellf kissed France Nuyen on the Ed Sullivan show in 1958.

https://fakehistoryhunter.net/2019/09/11/not-the-first-interracial-kiss-on-tv/

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[-] [email protected] 78 points 3 weeks ago

Kinda hard to be a bigot when your favorite show is about a egalitarian socialist utopia

[-] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago

And yet it still happens. There are right-wing bigots who watch Star Trek for the pew pew space battles and ignore the rest, sad as that may be.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago

They are not Trek fans, they are violence fans. They are not welcome.

I love Star Trek for the vision, the tech, the people and of course to hate Wesley. This is my utopia.

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[-] [email protected] 54 points 3 weeks ago

Hands up those old enough to remember the shitfest that erupted over Janeway (and/or Sisko)

[-] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago

I threw up the horns. It was nuts as a middle school girl, when Voyager first started airing, and everyone was so angry about Janeway and when I'd ask why they would turn red and shake their head, or change the topic.

[-] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago

The good old days, when sexist, racist, homophobes at least kept their mouths shut... Now they'd give you a speech about how she should be in the galley :(

[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's true. It's not been a totally smooth ride. It's taken work to educate fellow fans, and making the intolerant unwelcome.

Like there was early "controversy" about Geordie getting to be on the bridge. Which seemed kind of logical, but if you scratched below the surface you'd see how selective that critique was. That it was just racism and ableism

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[-] [email protected] 45 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I kinda lost it when Janeway fired more photon torpedos than the ship had upon entering the Delta quadrant. Where did she get the extra torpedoes?! She's a witch!

[-] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago

They figured a way to fabricate their own. Like the shuttles.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

Head cannon is that 1/3 of voyager is taken up by a massive shuttle manufactory. It's never discussed but it must be there...Otherwise, none of this shit makes any sense.😬

[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

The lower decks should have done a joke about the three ensigns on Voyager who did nothing except build shuttles the entire seven years.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They could do it in the shuttle bay, they wouldn't need much more space than a finished shuttle takes up. We know they have shipboard replimats for larger things, I figure replicating and building standard shuttle models on long voyages has standardized procedures and steps like Lego instructions. You only need to replicate one piece at a time saving on space. Gotta replace your shuttles somehow on those 5 years missions and the nearest Starbase is months away.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

I was always sad they never explored that sort of thing in an episode, didn't have to be as big as the Delta Flyer but still!

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[-] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago

The entire Dune novel fanbase is also pretty decent. I like hanging out with him.

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[-] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago

The Discworld fandom is another one you can't be in if you're an asshole because you clearly didn't understand the source material.

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[-] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Also, sorry everyone, I was a Trekkie first and I will always come back to Star Trek, but the MST3K fan base is the nicest fan base. The only two bitter arguments I've ever seen the community devolve into was Joel vs. Mike (now very moot) and "I hate Crow's new lady voice" for the most recent season. Other than that, everyone is super nice to a fault. The MST3K forums is the friendliest forum I have ever been on.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago

Joel vs. Mike

Mike is a great writer but Joel by far has the better timing and delivery. Not to derail the thread or anything.

calmly places halo above his head

[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

Shit, if MST3K, Cinematic Titanic, and RiffTrax have taught me anything, it's you can't win 'em all, but you're always a winner when you're laughing with your friends

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[-] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago

SHUT UP WE ARE NOT THE NICEST FAN BASE I WILL FIGHT YOU

[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

Say that again and I'll tuvix the shit out of you!!

(Then there will be two of you, but better, Im showing you mercy)

[-] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago

You probably shouldn't do the 'two of the same guy' thing (known in the trade as a 'Reverse Tuvix') where Star Trek is concerned...

Don't you dare tell me Andy Dick doesn't count.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

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[-] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago

I'm out of the loop... What torpedo? What woman?

[-] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe the recent controversy from Warhammer 40k where Games Workshop retconned women space marines into existence? I dunno, did Star Wars do something to trigger the sexists since then, that controversy is a few weeks old now.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

I took it as a (mistaken) reference to the scene in The Last Jedi when Vice Admiral Holdo (Laura Dern) rams into a star destroyer in hyperspace, a maneuver which destroyed both ships and made people wonder why they didn’t just hyperspace into shit all the time instead of building warships and getting shot all the time.

It happened in the same point in the movie when she refuses multiple times to say that she has any plan whatsoever, leading to a lot of pointless fighting and was thought to have been some sort of commentary on “believing women” but very poorly executed.

Disney spent billions to destroy the Star Wars canon, but hopefully Trek can escape such a grisly fate.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

Meanwhile us Battlestar Galactica fans are over in the corner wondering why no one talks to us

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Completely agree.

If I would ever be in desperate need of help it would instantly comfort me to see a trekkie or a metalhead. The average wholesomeness is ridiculously high.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

So you're saying Star Trek needs its own version of Jar Jar?

[-] [email protected] 42 points 3 weeks ago

That would be lens flare

[-] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

https://files.catbox.moe/qajgyx.mp4

[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah that was both subtle and not quite so subtle. Lower Decks is multi layer genius.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yes, it features several layers of the ship (decks).

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[-] GregorGizeh 20 points 3 weeks ago

Jar Jar Abrams

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

Wait, but we already went crazy about a woman firing torpedoes. We went so crazy, we counted them.

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