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[–] [email protected] 221 points 2 months ago (17 children)

Re-Enabling the dislike button would help too

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I agree but there's also an add-on for that

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago

Yeah but it's not that accurate, and it leaves most normal mobile users out of the picture. I know YouTube knew exactly what they were doing when they removed dislikes, but it still seems absolutely insane to remove such a useful tool for sifting through the bullshit.

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 2 months ago (8 children)

So now we have to read a community note to know a video is garbage instead of just seeing a massive dislike bar and clicking off?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Didn't they take away the dislike button?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The removed the dislike count a couple years ago, so you can no longer see if a video is terrible.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (11 children)

"Return YouTube Dislike" extension for Firefox and Chrome.

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[–] [email protected] 99 points 2 months ago (7 children)

I feel like this is what the comment section is used for.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Can the channel owner delete comments on their videos?

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, as well as automatically hiding new comments.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

which is unfortunate, i think YT does it to save paid labor on moderating comments, but this allows video posters to upload misleading info and delete correcting replies, which also pairs well with hidden thumbs down

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It also allows uploaders to stop hate filled posting, like incels trashing the comments on anything positive about female characters in media.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It also allows uploaders to stoke hate with their videos and delete reasonable takes and people calling out misinformation in the comments.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, I'd rather the channel have the first say here. It would be even better if some independent mod team could override channel owners though if there are enough reports.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Enough reports is how brigades are effective.

There isn't a great solution that solves all the possibilities, it is a difficult problem. An independent mod team sounds great until you get into the details of how they are formed and the fact that they are people too who might miss nuance or hold their own shitty opinions.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

And Youtube will 100% allow creators to hide notes, as well. Corporations will not allow themselves to be criticized on their own pages.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I value my mental health too much to regularly dive into the YouTube comment section

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 months ago (1 children)

another chance to provide free labour to train their AI!

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure the annotations will be intelligent and insightful...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Yeah clearly training data does get much review for these peasant facing products. I am assuming real tool will take legions of pros to properly tune up.

The issue not LLM per we, the issue is that none of these clown companies appear to do Amy data quality control. They just rush whatever janky thing they got to drive headlines.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Didn't they take away crowd-sourced subtitles before?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Damn I miss those. Nowadays it's really hard to find a video that's in another language and has subtitles. The only subtitles you will find are the automatically-generated ones, which suck

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This sounds like a great spot for scammers to flood for maximum visabilty. It'll be too much effort to moderate, so creators will just disable them (if they can) or this will be shut down in about (checks YouTube's history of dealling with scammers) 3.5 years.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago

That’s not going to go wrong at all.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I mean, if this is basically Twitter's Community Notes feature, but for YouTube, I'm all for it. Bit of a balancing act, but it's the last thing that hasn't been completely wrecked now that Twitter became Xitter.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I give this about two weeks before they realize that it's as effective at helping their advertising as having dislike buttons are.

I am not condoning poisoning of this well of information, but I will laugh my ass off when it inevitably occurs.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

It really is unfortunate as it COULD be a really good feature if it were being implemented by someone who wasn't just trying to crowdsource AI training data that will go into commercial products without compensation to anyone. It could be a great tool for professionals and experts to expand on what creators say, a way to call out falsehoods and Hypocrites, and a way to find your people in a world that is growing ever bleaker. But no, it is just being done to force more ads down our throats and harvest more money from us.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So we can explicitly graffiti videos but we can't add translations. 🤯

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

This is just for training AI.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

Wait, didn't this feature already exist for years and then was shut down??

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

lol, considering the “quality” content in the comments section it’s just going to be a continuation of that dumpster fire.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Time to scrape notes data for ai

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

I miss when Youtube had community sourced subtitles and those little annotations on the video...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Yeah that'll end well I'm sure.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

It's our duty to describe all videos as pizza glue recipes.

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