... Just removing the indigenous people from the game entirely so the colonizers can fight over the land is extremely, extrmely on the nose.
But then Conan Exiles is pretty turbo-racist so I guess this is on point for Funcom.
Wtf?
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Like you're making a survival game for Dune, how could it be anything but about the Fremen, the deep desert hyper-survivalist guys?
Cracker feelings will get hurt
But then Conan Exiles is pretty turbo-racist
Rly? I played a little but I don't know much about the context of the game.
Having played it a fair bit, I'm pretty sure it's just the fact that it's Conan and carries at least some of all the weird racism of the setting.
Pretty much. Like there's black people, they're all cannibals who worship an eldritch cannibal god, they wear skin loincloths and teeth necklaces, and they're mechanically the weakest human enemies.
Who are the strongest human enemies, and the most desirable to enslave and make in to your thralls?
Stalwart muscular white psuedo-vikings.
Lots of shit like that.
As a game it's great. There's lots to do, lots of systems, character progression, dungeons, weird mechanics, the art is gorgeous. I have 535 hours in it. Almost none of those hours are in public servers because I don't want to play with the kind of people who would play Conan Exiles.
they're mechanically the weakest human enemies.
I think one of the recent overhaul patches made several of the named Darfari characters meta, but I haven't kept up with it too closely after I stopped running a private server for my friends so I'm not sure on the details there. I think it also flattened stats a lot so now the difference in faction is more equipment based?
Who are the strongest human enemies, and the most desirable to enslave and make in to your thralls?
Stalwart muscular white psuedo-vikings.
For a long time at least the meta was the Relic Hunter Treasure Seekers, a cosmopolitan faction consisting of every vaguely middle eastern coded ethnic group, although yeah most of the meta named characters have been Cimmerians who are literally the fascist "dispossessed atlantean ubermench" theory shit.
As a game it's great. There's lots to do, lots of systems, character progression, dungeons, weird mechanics, the art is gorgeous. I have 535 hours in it. Almost none of those hours are in public servers because I don't want to play with the kind of people who would play Conan Exiles.
Yeah. Like it's basically "what if ARK was a better designed game at a basic mechanical level" but obviously loses a ton of points relative to ARK for not having dinosaurs, so it evens up about even with it thanks to being better in every other way. The mods are great too, although I really wish private servers could either force unlock or completely disable and remove all the paid DLC shit. Like if I'm hosting my own server I should be able to force that to allow whatever, I should have complete power over both the server and everything on it, and the game being like "nah 90% of the menu is gonna be greyed out DLC unlocks, wasting space" despite that is extremely offensive. It's like things running on my own computer showing ads, just an intolerable corporate invasion.
I looked in to that and apparently there was a hack to unlock all the DLCs at one point, but it's out of date. : p
Yeah, I've looked on the cs.rin.ru thread and you used to be able to run hacked clients on private servers (I've done this, in fact - I couldn't convince my friends to actually buy the game so I had them pirate it instead and run it on my self-hosted server), but funcom fucked with the netcode to make clients phone home more or something. I think it may be possible to hack unlock the DLCs for singleplayer, but even there the newer shop and battlepass stuff is weirdly obfuscated and locked away.
Just absolute scum shit: if a company wants to sell cosmetic DLCs for use on their own network of servers, whatever, that's scummy but they're owning, controlling, and providing the ecosystem for that. But when you're talking about privately hosted servers outside that ecosystem they should have free reign to do whatever they please, and the same for singleplayer ecosystems.
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Literally what is the point of a Dune survival game if you're not either playing as the Fremen or constantly having to look over your shoulder to make sure you're not about to get turned into a water refill station? If you're going to choose to do Dune as your setting, why wouldn't you want to have extra NPC factions so you can have the rich interconnected politics?
What's next, removing the worms and sand?
If you're going to choose to do Dune as your setting, why wouldn't you want to have extra NPC factions so you can have the rich interconnected politics?
If Fallout 76 has taught us anything, it's that the people in charge of these projects are certified brain geniuses who understand why people like the setting
They drive a lotus and have a killer view from their mansion. You're telling me they aren't cool smart people!?
the first mistake was making an MMO in the year of our lord 2024.
It's even worse, it's a survival MMO. But this is exactly this shit i expected when i heard the IP was handed over to (Anti)Funcom company, one of the worst game companies out there that for some reason take great settings and turn it into at best cosmetic reskins of the most generic games out there.
Dune is great universe but holy shit it has absolute bad luck to computer games, at least in last quarter of a century. Best Dune game out there is mod for Civ 4.
The Dune RTS seems pretty decent
The old ones from 90's sure, but the new one is very mediocre and it's just a reskin.
A reskin of what? I'm enjoying it
Northgard
Haven't played that, kinda checked out of Viking settings
Ironically, Conan Exiles is probably one of the most fully featured, complete, and interesting survival games out there. Still a gd mess, but there's stuff to do.
i really don't know much about Funcom other than they made the longest journey (which im still playing it's a heck of a long journey let me tell you that). where did they go wrong?
Well i like strategies and rpg the most so i pay attention to that and i never played Longest Journey though i heard a lot of praises (seriously last p&c adventure i played and enjoyed was i think Syberia 1)
where did they go wrong?
Conan. Exiles is one of the most boring mmo i ever played, and then they made strategy game which was so generic even they forgot it soon after. Well to be fair Dune: Spice Wars is passable, but they only published it and it is also generic, the Dune setting is superficial as hell there.
the Dune setting is superficial as hell there.
Originally it was just a clone of Northgard by the same studio, although it's starting to outgrow those roots a bit at this point. Game is mid as hell, though.
The first Homeworld game captures a Dune-esque vibe in the music and the scale even if the story is very different.
HW 1 is a nearly perfect game. I picked it up on a whim as a birthday present from an EB games at the mall when it first came out just because I thought the box art and description were cool and god damn did it live up to expectations.
Yes, and Desert of Kharak also tried something like that, but the game was not good.
I liked emperor battle for dune. But it seems to only run on windows XP
A dune mod for desserts of karaoke would have been cool
Oh yes, Emperor was cool, pity it isn't even on GOG.
I've been playing of old PC games lately. What's the Civ4 dune mod called? 👀
Dune Wars. Though it recieved Villeneuve update recenty which i didn't played and i can't attest for that.
the first mistake was making an MMO
Bullshit. I wanted a QTE for draining the water out of Harkonnens.
How could sweet baby rays do this
Zensunni erasure.
It's time for Zensufi rise, powindah.
It states that in-game, "they are missing." So, it seems like they’re on the side no one pays attention to, for the moment. Seems like something they'd hold off on until dlc or something. Is this a good choice? No. Is it racist? Not inherently.
Not yet somewhat implies they'll be unplayable and act as big bads for a future expansion
I’m saying it’s definitely possible. I just don’t think it’s the conclusion from what we know so far.
Yeah maybe I'm reaching. But adding a new enemy faction feels more plausible than a 3rd playable faction. But who knows.
Yeah to me it seems like covering for bungled development planning by holding off unfinished content that was planned to be in day 1, so they can either sell it as dlc or drive hype for future GAAS content releases
The Fremen are like, one of the three things normies know about Dune. How do they expect to get enough subs to sustain an mmo without mainstream appeal?