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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 month ago

Old son, we been on this road for a piece now.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Proud child rapist and convicted felon Donald Trump needs to be in prison, not in the ground. Dying just lets him get away with his numerous numerous crimes without punishment. Hopefully he makes a full recovery and can rot for many years to come, preferably without any additional votes gained from surviving an assassination attempt

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Agreed. He's old AF and lives on McDonald's - death isn't that far off anyways. More to the point, everybody dies . Death isn't justice. Everybody dies. The only way for America to heal from what he's done is for him to see the inside of a jail cell. That possibility seems increasingly remote.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It's wild how the US allow convicted felon to be in politic, even worst so run for president.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But they can’t vote. You can run the country, but your vote doesn’t count.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Point of note, child rapist and convicted felon Donald Trump specifically will likely be able to vote. Florida law is that felons convicted in other states follow the law of that state for if a felon is allowed to vote. New York law is that only incarcerated felons lose their vote. So unless he's sentenced to prison and the sentence starts before November he'll be able to vote in Florida without any additional special treatment

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

And even if that weren’t true, he could vote anyway because he has God Mode from his past presidency, no?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

At that point, we're just doing it to be petty. Not like we're gonna reform him and make him see the error in his ways in there. It's just punishment for punishment's sake.

An assassination attempt was logical at face value, at least. Trump poses a threat, so you eliminate that threat, just as you would an animal stalking you. Of course, killing trump isn't actually going to end this craziness.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

But how do you put someone that's above the law in jail?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago

Sorry old man, you're 8 years too fucking late, at minimum.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago

Funny how the powerful have nothing against violence when it's the military industrial complex (including the Israel extension) killing poor and defenseless civilians in the tens or even hundreds of thousands, but the moment someone tries to assassinate a tyrant, violence is abhorrent.

I would argue that it's the other way around: the only murder that's ever acceptable, even beneficial to the common good, is the assassination of a tyrant whom the people cannot get rid of in any other way.

A tyrant such as the Mango Mussolini, future fascist dictator of the United States.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

America must also not go down the road of 1930s Germany.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

Then do something about it you piece of shit. One man is responsible for the majority of the particularly violent rhetoric, and one party is responsible for nearly all of it.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

People in power really don't like The myth of decorum, a “polite” society coming to end. People can see how silly it is to say this while being active in an ongoing genocide. There is no unifying with Trump cultists. They are not good people even if they are my fellow countrymen.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

He means the road that has already existed in American politics for over a hundred years and now resembles a highway.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I’m fine with it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

So true. He should have had the military do this a few weeks ago, if not years ago.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He's right. Violence like this will only beget more violence. We need to be clear on our side that we don't endorse anything of the kind.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I’m not gonna lie: if yesterday had gone a different way, I’d’ve been pretty happy about it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

Dude, it’s weird. I don’t actually care about the details of the assassination beyond the fact that it didn’t work. I don’t think I’ve ever felt this way about a person before. It’s very odd.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I've been going back and forth about this all day. On one hand, I think it's obvious that Trump is a symptom of the right wing's systemic slide into open authoritarianism, rather than its architect... but on the other hand, I don't think his cult of personality would have long outlived him (especially if it turned out he was assassinated by a fellow right-winger over his ties to Epstein) and there's not many figures on the right who would be able to reconstitute it quickly. On the other hand, I don't think his cult members would go gentle into the night, and there would be ugly, violent reprisals. On the other hand, I fear there's going to be violence no matter what, and it's probably better for it to happen before the election than after for a host of reasons. But on the other hand, etc., etc...