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Well, violence was already normalized in every other sphere of American life, I guess it was only a matter of time. Look at the Trump shooter, by American standards, the only weird thing about him is that he went after someone important instead of just shooting up his local school or walmart.

I hate to be "that kind" of leftist but political violence has always been normalized and accepted. Cops exist to uphold the law, the law is made by politicians, cops use violence to uphold it.
"Oooh but [person being beaten by cops] did something illegal" yeah. We decided it was illegal and we decided violence was fine to use to keep it that way. I'm not saying it's good or bad or I disagree or agree or whatever, it's just how it is.

Saying you're for political violence is just being honest. Everybody is for it, they're just against violence that influences them negatively.

back on track

Back on track for what

Gotta be honest, that infographic is kinda uninformative wrt the actual rate of increase. You made me read! 💢

• 1 in 10 in the 1990s said violent action against the government can be justified

• Serious threats against federal judges that trigger an investigation rose from 179 in 2019 to 457 in 2023

• Threats against members of Congress are up nearly tenfold since 2015

What percent of that violence is right wingers trying to combat imaginary enemies entirely disconnected from reality?

That first statistic is so funny. It reminds me of conversations that are like "He's a felon, but it was for drugs." "Oh, who cares?" It's the same thing except you'd go

"They're a murderer, but they murked a politician"

"Oh shit, which one?"

[My lawyer suggests I don't include this line]

"Oh, that rocks! Can we invite them over for dinner? I'll bring out the fine china"

taking violent action against the government can be justified

Lol, this is something nearly everyone believes CAN be justified. It's such an open ended statement, yeah I'm sure most people can imagine a situation where they would feel violent action against the government could be justified. Really the question should have been do you feel it's justified under the current administration

I'm surprised only 34% of Americans believe taking violent action against the government can be justified, isn't the whole country founded on violent action being taken against the government? Or did the founding fathers just write some lukewarm think pieces, stage a protest in the designated protest zone, and vote for George Washington?

How much of the 20% are leftists?

I mean the first one is kinda weird, considering how the country started…

we love our lead-poisoned boomers and Xers dont we folks, we love them

8008

heh

Critical support for comrade BOOB

Boob number of threats

Sorry in advance for reading way tf too far into this post, but it got me thinking. How are we supposed to interpret these numbers? Is 34% (or I guess 20%) a good or bad thing? Do we want more violence in America?

I always struggle with understanding what actions are good, and what actions are bad. If I am supposed to care about the masses opinions, I would say this statistic still reinforces the idea that any violent action at all in the US is detrimental to our movement (especially if you consider a good portion of these people were probably very right wing). Are we at a period in time then that things like red papers, book clubs, and peaceful protests are enough? That doesn't sound right, but there is likely some theory I'm missing or misunderstanding.

Just eating my popcorn waiting for the whole shitshow to collapse. I just hope when their cold civil war re-ignites they don't use nukes on each other this time. Or at least that the fallout doesn't hit Canada.

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8,008 divided by 201 days... That's just about 40 per day. As for the judges, that shakes out to about 2.3 per day. (What constitutes a third of a serious threat is anyone's guess, but that's still too much for me to round down to two.)