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Some Republicans are starting to seriously regret Donald Trump’s vice presidential nominee, Ohio Senator J.D. Vance.

It’s been only one week since Vance was nominated at the Republican National Convention, and already his own party members are expressing severe doubts about Trump’s pick. The former president’s allies have acknowledged that nominating Vance was the product of Trump’s absolute certainty that he would be able to defeat Joe Biden in November. While Vance wouldn’t do much for swing voters or independents, he would likely shore up support among Trump’s base.

But ever since Biden passed the torch to Vice President Kamala Harris, the Democratic Party’s new presumptive nominee, Republicans have begun to sour on Vance.

“The road got a lot harder. He was the only pick that wasn’t the safe pick. And I think everyone has now realized that,” one House Republican told Axios Thursday, under the condition of anonymity.

Another House Republican told Axios that Vance “doesn’t add much.”

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[–] [email protected] 138 points 3 months ago (13 children)

Really feels like Vance is being set up as the fall guy to blame when trump loses.

"If he had just picked someone else as VP, he would've won!" -conservatives in five months

[–] [email protected] 69 points 3 months ago (4 children)

It's amusing you think Republicans will do anything but say the election was stolen by the left.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago

Yeah, it's actually not possible for me to imagine Republicans losing the presidency again without claiming fraud. Even if saying that directly stops playing as well, they will just move onto softer language about it. Like when they went from being directly racist to claiming all problems are certain immigrants' fault.

They will "just ask questions" about particular states' results. I don't think we will come back from that. It may even bleed over to Democrats saying it eventually, just because it's so established in the zeitgeist that it's possible, some lesser thinking Dems may run with it.

Notice how none of them hesitate to do this shit now. It's because they've started to internalize that democracy is bad because it doesn't give their party the advantages they feel entitled to.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago

They’ll do both

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Vance brings no new votes to the table. He is really just there because Peter Thiel agreed to donate to the campaign if Trump made him VP. When Biden was still in, the GOP believed that the election was as good as won so they didn’t believe they need to appeal to anyone else. Now that Kamala is running, the initial reaction and polling is showing that this race isn’t going to be easy for the GOP and Vance looks like a shitty pick.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago

And JD Vance has earned all the hate MAGA is going to send his way. Bending the knee may give short term gain, but it will ultimately ruin your life and legacy, like a whole list of these lifelong Republicans. The Lindsay Graham's and Ted Cruz's who took Trump's abuse and just cowered like the pathetic people they are.

MAGA will be in the history books beside the confederates as the traitor party.

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[–] solsangraal 123 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

hilarious that vance wrote an entire book blaming poor mountain people for causing their own problems and not bootstraps-ing themselves out of despair (like he did, naturally), and is now saying that biden's america is 100% to blame for those exact same problems

not to mention all the gigabytes of trash he's talked about trump, whose asshole vance is now slurping with the gusto of a dog in a steak factory

[–] [email protected] 61 points 3 months ago

whose asshole vance is now slurping with the gusto of a dog in a steak factory

😆 It's only 0600 here. I'm gonna call it a day after reading that so that I can end on a high note.

[–] [email protected] 106 points 3 months ago (9 children)

"Vance does worse in his home region at -16 points than he does in the average of all polls… So the people who know him best, the region that knows him best, they like him even less than America likes him.”

— Polling analyst Harry Enten, on CNN

Plus, betting markets have opened up on if he'll be retained on the ticket.

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 3 months ago (2 children)

James Donald Bowman is his birth name. Tired of this ‘woke’ changing names agenda!

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Wait.. so the Republican ticket is James Donald and Donald John? Those fucking nerds.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 3 months ago (10 children)

Let's not jump to conclusions until we get the couche's side of the story.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Would that cushion the blow?

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They needed a running mate with a name similar to Pence so that Demented Donald could remember it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I do outside sales in Ohio and I'm on the road a lot

The amount of people who have Trump / Pence signs and have put white tape over the P and E to make a V and A is ... Surreal. Like why do you still have signs from an election 8 years ago? Their house is probably full of cats and hoard and bugs. Can't wait to get updated signs?

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 months ago (8 children)

I mean, his last VP pick had lightning powers. This one fucks couches. That's a hell of a downgrade.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Poor JD, his grandma really did hate him for being a burdensome piece of shit.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago

And for what he did to her favorite sofa. He even took off the plastic cover - just raw digging it with no protection.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What are they talking about? Vance secures the couch fucker vote.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 months ago (3 children)

If you were an extreme project 2025 republican, Vance would have been the perfect candidate assuming that 1. The democrats would throw the election by running Biden with failing health. And 2. That Trump would die of a heart attack in a few years.

I legitimately can't think of another reason why they would have picked him. The Trump campaign and project 2025 were counting on both those facts being true.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago (3 children)

It’s amazing how much Trump got played. The democrats had to know Biden was going to drop out when they scheduled the earliest presidential debate in history. It was all a show so people would demand Biden drop out before he actually dropped out.

And not only did Trump agree to it (cause his ego told him he would dominate), now he’s picked a god awful VP pick cause he thought he knew who his opponent was.

[–] [email protected] 93 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I love this but no way our Democrat leadership thought that far ahead.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ha, yeah. I've been a registered Democrat since I was 18. No freaking way they tried at something so hard like that.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago

To be fair, for all we know you're 19.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago (5 children)

The democrats had to know Biden was going to drop out when they scheduled the earliest presidential debate in history.

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (5 children)

You are giving way to much credit to the capability of the democratic leadership.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I love that there's literally a video of Vance calling Trump a horrible person and they still picked him. Plus the whole couch-fucking thing. Good stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago

Look at all those signs, maybe they can sue the GOP for a refund.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago

his previous VP was lame too, he wants the show all for himself

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Vance has been so embroiled in gaffes, he hasn’t even really gotten to expound on any of his “new right” ideas, such as his phony brand of conservative economic populism, or creepy pronatalism, or terrifying techo-authoritarianism.

Trump’s campaign, however, released a statement doubling down on the former president’s increasingly unpopular pick.

“President Trump is thrilled with the choice he made with Senator Vance, and they are the perfect team to take back the White House,” said campaign spokesman Steven Cheung, according to Axios.

Phony, creepy, terrifying.

And Steven Cheung, you need to understand nobody represents trump who doesn't get shit on. Just saying. It's your future. Hopefully you can represent yourself at trial.

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