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I-was-saying "the baron is playing chess; he must be a lazy, shiftless bum"

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

that goes remarkably hard given it's in a For Dummies book

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

Which is why I felt the need to post

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

Most things are intelligible to most people, given the time and effort. Even notoriously brainy subjects like physics or math.

The range of intelligence among humans is not as large as those in power would like you to believe, because just like the chess community, it helps the ruling class legitimize a hierarchy.

Capitalist division of labor increases the intensity of this phenomenon. Specialization of labor increases with technological advance. The more specialized the laborer, the more dependent they become on a web of other specialists, and dependent more broadly on a particular technique of production.

Yet, as technology advances, lines of work “become antiquated before they can ossify.”[^1] The means of subsistence for the worker, ie their special expertise and education, is constantly being undermined by the incessant advancement of technology as capitalists chase after additional profits (relative surplus value).

On the one hand, specialization requires significant investment on the part of the worker; they identify with it as an essential aspect of their self. On the other hand, specialization becomes synonymous with precarity: the more specialized one’s expertise, the less easily it can be adapted to new techniques of production.

The result is that workers strongly identify with their skill sets, and find it in their interest to make their expertise as scarce and inaccessible as possible, or at least perceived as such.

The same thing happened with the guild system during feudal times, with the rise of the bourgeoisie which led to reactions by the guilds to artificially restrict knowledge of their trades (consequently restricting production of trade goods) except through official mentorship programs. Modern universities have their origin in the guild system. “Scholastic” guilds worked to advance knowledge as such, analogously to the trade guilds which refined knowledge of their respective trades.

For myself, I’ve been happier to drop this desire to identify with a hobby or career. I’m just a person who has certain skill sets like anyone else. I’m more in touch with my humanity now than I was when I was in school desperately trying to earn the respect to be called a [area of study]ist.

[^1]: The Communist Manifesto

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm a weedsmokist and nobody can take that from me

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah Mr. Engels that's all well and good, but have you considered neurodivergent people's special interests?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

TBH, I think identifying as what I do is kinda healthier than what nationality I am or what religion I am or other similar things.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

For myself, I’ve been happier to drop this desire to identify with a hobby or career.

Speak for yourself, I'm a cocaine leftist. my hobby of being a cocaine addict is core to my identity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

to be fair, is anyone who has enough skills in something to be called an [insert respected term]ist getting there without cocaine?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I prefer Mutualism over Marxism.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

gamer-gulag They targeted gamers.

Gamers.

We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Heh, kid, you take bathroom breaks? It's far more efficient to wear a diaper and sit on one of those puppy pee pads. I basically only have to change myself if i take a boom boom.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Pooing your pants intentionally and calling it mind games

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Two weird things people assume about me often enough that it's worth mentioning, that is good at chess, cause I'm smart and that I'm Jewish which I think is cause I'm funny and do bring a sort of Larry David vibe to the table. I don't even know how to play chess, I don't know what all the pieces do. And my family are Anglican loyalists who moved to Canada and German Midwesterners who went to Canada instead of the midwest.

However me and another guy at work have started a bit where we call random chess moves to each other at work and occasionally say things like 'ahh! The morrocan gambit, how clever!' to give customers the impression that we're super geniuses

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

"We need a kid's spaghetti, a mushroom Alfredo, 1 dine in arancini and some sprouts! Rook 2 to pawn 6!"

"Just swapped the oil so the aranchini is gonna take longer than normal! Knight to bishop 1, checkmate!"

"Just crank the fryer for a bit and it'll go faster, just remember to turn it down after, and are you sure about that checkmate?"

"Sorry, check"

"That's fine, it's a busy night. Speaking of busy knight mine takes your rook!"

We spend like 30 hours a week together and have for 3 years now, we are really good at improv with each other by now

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I play chess (badly) and this is hilarious.

Now I want to imagine what the Moroccan gambit would be like

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

You'd better bet that it's bold

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Bongcloud

Frenchman's Cumsock

Monkey Bum

Only one of these is made up and the other two are the names of openings used by grandmasters in FIDE sanctioned events.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

I think we'll keep going with things that sound like what a 1780s aristocrat might say, anyone who knows chess will catch on to the bit when they notice.were just naming chess pieces and letters and numbers at random. Here's some others we've made up:

The Brussels Wager

The Haliburton Exit (mine, I thought it was clever)

The Barcelona Maneuver

The Antwerp Flank

The Dreaded Parallel Strategem of the Swiss

The Buckaneer Open

The Proto Indo European Midgame Meta

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

U made it too obvious lol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But no seriously two of those are real with wiki pages and everything lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Lol yeah I believe you, I knew one of them, and I figured the other out. I just didn't want to give the game away

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Hassock to Z4 capabara-tank

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Old and busted: "Chess is for very smart people that dwell in a high lofty mind palace of logic and reason."

New and bazinga: "Chess is actually really simple and easy compared to this bibeo bame I am currently into. No I won't play you in chess; I'm too smart and I'm sure I'd win anyway." my-hero

https://dotesports.com/chess/news/elon-musk-has-said-many-stupid-things-lately-but-saying-chess-is-too-simple-takes-the-cake

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

I hate this man more every day

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Then he said "more mechanics = more smart" I'm sure there are 6 years olds who can understand why this is false

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

"And this is why Diablo Immortal, with its many, many premium currencies that overlap one another, intentionally obtuse and hard to comprehend while draining your wallet and pressuring users into paying more for fear of being shamed by anyone they are playing with, is the smartest of the Activision-Blizzard treats." morshupls

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Go is infinitely more interesting strategically and much more difficult than chess, yet it's simple af.

Child brain, I tell you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"How do you expect me to play with no Fog of War?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I just realized that he was implying that Diablo and Le Epic Belden Bing are both more complex than chess. galaxy-brain

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

This is how I feel about my college degree