this post was submitted on 19 Sep 2024
359 points (98.1% liked)

politics

19072 readers
3853 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 20 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 month ago (1 children)

His followers don't care. They probably didn't even watch the debate anyway, and even if they did it's been abundantly clear for years now that millions of Americans - for some inexplicable reason - will choose to believe Trump's words over the evidence of facts, their own memories and even their own direct sensory input.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Exactly. His followers expect there to have been an audience and those fictional people should have been crazy about it...

And to make it worse, they are none too concerned with facts to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

It's weird. Like, this is the kind of lie that is so easily disprovable. Like ask anyone who was there.

But his followers won't. And even if they did, they'll just accuse them of being trans and dismiss it.

These people could have been at the debate, knowing full well that there wasn't an audience, and they'll convince themselves that they were wrong and Trump is right.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (2 children)

the voices in his head went crazy

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

"This is it Donny, use your laser eyebeams to cut her in half! DIDN'T YOU HEAR HER INSULT YOU? CUT HER IN HALF!!!!"

"Hey, it's okay buddy, you're just trying your best..."

"Wtf?! I'll pay bail for whoever kills that voice"

"See Donny? We used our laser eyebeams just fine. You're a real disappointment."

"Loser"

"SAD"

"BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

... so bad, it's so ridiculous....

"You did it Donny, YOU WON THE DEBATE!!!"

"Is someone toasting something?"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

How delightfully redundant.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trump is an audience of one. In his head.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago

I don’t think he’s as far off as they suggest. I remember the whole world laughing every time he spoke.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

My hot take is that these lies are for the undecideds that hate politics, didn’t watch the debate, and only catch a few snippets a week about what is going on.

He hopes that these people catch his bullshit Cliffs notes before heading into the ballot box.

They didn’t see the debate, so try to get snippets out on social media that tells them about the debate you wished happened.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago

i don’t think it’s “for” anyone in particular. this is just who he is.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bingo. If he repeats the same bullshit enough publicly, more and more dumb people will catch it and just go with it.

These dumb fucks aren’t known for their research skills.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think you're giving Trump way too much credit. I honestly don't think that there is any reason to what he does or says.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Exactly. He lies so much to inflate his "greatness" that it's just a habit at this point. It's never mattered to his base whether the things he said are true or not, never any consequences to him lying, so he just does it at every opportunity. If he was telling you that he took a dump, he'd add something like "...and all the people in the bathroom were very impressed - they'd never seen such a great dump before. They were cheering."

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Narcissists gonna narcissist, I guess 🤷

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Now. That is funny.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

In his defense if there had been one they would have been going crazy with oh snap, burn, he took the bait and such.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

As a guy who likes movies by Baskova unironically, I want to post that quote from the most famous russian trash movie incl. necrophilia and coprophagia called The Green Elephant. It sounds just like him. It's said by a prison guard who lost his marbles after observing a total moral degradation of arrested soviet soldiers in caprivity circa 1980s:

I am on a horse. You are on a white horse, and I am on a white horse. And then we come to the ball. And then a salute... in our honor. A salute in our honor. First at the parade, and then we will go to the officers' club. There will be a ball. Beer. Salute. A salute in honor of us. I am a colonel and you are on a white horse. Can you hear me? Look at my uniform! Look at the stars it has! I have never showed it for anyone else. I'll just show you. Look! This is my dress uniform. I had it made especially for me! Look, don't be afraid! Shoulder straps? I'll change them! Here they are, the shoulder straps. Here! The real ones! Do you see? Colonel. I am a colonel. I will wear them to the parade. This is my uniform. The cleanest. Why are you coughing? We'll go to the officers' club, drink some beer - and don't be afraid. I am with a sabre, on a white horse, commanding the parade! I am a colonel! I command the parade! I am with the stars! On the white horse! I am a colonel! I command the parade!

More (in russian) from wikiquotes

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

The Independent - News Source Context (Click to view Full Report)Information for The Independent:

MBFC: Left-Center - Credibility: Medium - Factual Reporting: Mixed - United Kingdom
Wikipedia about this source

Search topics on Ground.Newshttps://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-audience-harris-debate-gutfeld-b2615455.html
Media Bias Fact Check | bot support

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

We should call out on each and every lie from this guy, but ... he never said "live audience" and it's quite plausible that he just meant the TV viewers and other folks watching live (and reacting in realtime on social media and the like). So maybe the rare case where he actually meant to say something almost reasonable.

Even from the article itself,

It is unclear if Trump was referring to the TV ratings when he spoke about the “crazy” audience.