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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Russiagate has always been copium for Western liberals who cannot accept the fact that reactionary tendencies are weaved into the fabric of their culture and institutions so they tell themselves bullshit like how their redneck racist uncle only voted for Trump and is anti-abortion because Putin seductively whispered some arcane incantation in his ear. In truth Russia's propaganda is not very effective

  • In 2017 before RT was shut down in the UK, it accounted for 0.04 percent of the UK’s total TV audience.[1]
  • A New York University study published earlier this year found that the supposed Russian Twitter influence campaign ahead of the 2016 election which dominated headlines for years had had “no measurable impact in changing minds or influencing voter behavior”.[2]
  • An earlier study found that suspected Russian accounts showing up in Facebook’s news feed during that time amounted to “approximately 1 out of 23,000 pieces of content.”[3]
  • A study by Adelaide University found that despite headline after headline warning us about a massive wave of Russian bots manipulating online discourse after the invasion of Ukraine began last year, the overwhelming majority of fake accounts they examined (more than 90 percent) were pro-Ukraine accounts.[4]

[1] https://www.newstatesman.com/comment/2022/02/rt-is-irrelevant-banning-it-would-just-give-putin-propaganda

[2] https://archive.is/9NKXl

[3] https://archive.is/6Xyld#selection-1327.271-1327.321

[4] https://declassifiedaus.org/2022/11/03/strongmassive-anti-russian-bot-army-exposed-by-australian-researchers-strong/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Well said, comrade.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The country that bombed their own workers and had its own version of apartheid? No way bro, they could never be reactionary

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

had? I think you mean has

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

2026? I'd say that's unlikely seeing as there's no US presidential election that year. But you never know with those sneaky Russians, they may decide to use their Havana mind control ray to make the US hold early elections.

If you meant 2016, then no. Russiagate was an intelligence agency manufactured hoax.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

There are people I interact with daily who think politicians like Jill Stein are "Russian Assets" (the fabled Putin dinner is talked about so much it practically needs it's own nickname). I really need to find a good text on the whole thing so I can provide sources and get them to stop blaming America's lame politicians on other countries.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think it's at best negligible. People like to point to Russia funding Tim Pool or whatever. But how does that bring undecided voters to vote for Trump?

The Tim Pool audience was going to vote for Trump anyways. Maybe to change some of their minds on Russia (some cons do think Russia is an evil communist country).

But it doesn't change the election outcome.

I don't think even Israel has that much influence over Presidential elections, much more than Russia, sure but Israel is not the one preventing Harris from advocating for Palestine, it's her own choice.

Israel however has another way of influencing US elections. Not through media campaign or the lobby but with its own actions, escalating in Lebanon

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

I'd argue that's the wrong question to ask. Every major power will try to interfere in the politics of other powers, that's just how it is. It's also worth noting that the US itself is a far worse offender than Russia in this regard. That said however, the real question is what factors make a nation vulnerable to foreign interference.

If we look at how the US operates, the first attack tends to be on the economic front where US will apply sanctions, embargoes, and other means of economic coercion. This leads to public discontent that can be leveraged by orgs like NED to create movements, parties, and other dissident organizations that challenge the established order.

And what we're seeing in the US today is a rapidly declining economic situation that leads to people becoming disillusioned with the current system. This is what's creating room for dissident opinion and for opportunists like Trump who come in with promises of draining the swamp, and so on.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

Are they buying facebook ads again?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Of course Russia interfered in the 2016 election, they interferred in the 2020 election. Everyone knows Russia interfered in the 2024 election, after all, they intereferred in the 2028 election. We also know this because Russia interferred in the 2032 election, and we know...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

If you are refering to the 2016 US election, then Hillary Clinton did mentioned that the freedom of speech by Putin's team in Facebook rigged the election which is absurd since it means that any election where people frequently post in favor for a presidential candidate are rigged. There are pre-election poll results that indicated that Hillary will certainly win the 2016 election which could call into question why Trump gain more votes than Hillary. However, the pre-election polls have convenient sampling biases that sample mostly from metropolitan residents, who are pro-Hillary, and negate the pro-Trump rural population in its sampling which indicates that the difference between the pre-election survey polls and the actual 2016 election result are not evidence of rigged election.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Of course they have! Just look at how the election is shaping up! Incredibly unpopular candidates and policies! Not to mention all the corruption in the system! As we all know, America was a perfect paradise before Putin started interfering in US elections, which turned the candidates into unlikable corrupt ghouls!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

blame all of your problems on Russia

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