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Vance says Trump won the 2020 election - then doubles down on the lie in new clip
(www.the-independent.com)
So that's why he wouldn't answer it during the debate
this post was submitted on 03 Oct 2024
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I mean, Walz outright called him out on it.
The only reason trump allowed vance to be his VP (aside from all the ties to right wing tech billionairres...) is that he has committed to not having a spine. pence had a spine for all of one day and did his job and obeyed the will of the people. vance obeys the will of trump and knows he will be fired (if not given some Novichok) should he turn from that.
I mean, was there any doubt?
Never, but it's nice to actually have him say it out loud.
somebody should soak Vance's couch in chili oil.
The JD now standing in for "jalapeño dick".
If you actually believed that, then wouldn’t you give up on an illegal third term?
Illegal is like flypaper to republicans.
I think it is important to understand the nuance here. In many ways, the Republican party is now a victim of its own rhetoric.
They have convinced a sizeable portion of the base that Trump won the election, regardless of mountains of evidence to the contrary. That is no small feat for the propaganda machine.
The problem is, there are saner folks in the Republican party -- we have seen many of them come out with very public endorsements of Harris, and that's only the famous ones. The Republicans know they need to stop the bleeding.
But the dumber among their base see this as an ultimatum. Saying Trump lost is playing into what they think is a biased media narrative. Vance didn't answer the question during the debate because to do so would have instantly alienated him from his own party base.
To retain anyone who isn't a bozo and is actually trying to make an informed decision, it would be important for the party to distance themselves from the conspiratorial nonsense once and for all. For all intents and purposes, it is currently impossible for them to do that.
Thus it is good that we speak up with any evidence like this that Team Trump is the same old bunch of weird losers they always have been. Regardless of what concessions they try to make to woo the non-crazies, facts are facts, and alternative facts don't exist.
Yeah this is what scares me about the MAGA nut jobs. Fox News and Trump have created a monster that they can try to steer but don't fully control. When Fox said that Trump lost the election, the MAGAts fled to News Max and OANN. When Trump even hinted that people should get vaccinated, he got booed and immediately walked it back.
It's the same reason that we now face a government shutdown every few months. They've driven their base so far to the right that they now have no choice but to appease that base or be eaten alive. Once Trump's McDonald's encrusted arteries eventually give out, this madness isn't going to just die with him.
Hah, Donny slipped up a few times, maybe vance is just fresh and hasn’t burned out yet.
If he won the 2020 election then he is ineligible to run in 2024, as he is nearing the end of his second term! Let's get this before a judge, post haste!
Then you were a terrible President, but a President nonetheless.
Of course he did. What’s he gonna do, stop suckling the teat? None of these jackasses turn on him until he sells them out.
he's just sticking to his marching orders, leading by example and showing what a good little brown-shirt he can be.
The Eagles won the Superbowl last year too
Oh, also the Diamondbacks won the World Series
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