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Netanyahu warns Lebanon of 'destruction like Gaza' (www.bbc.com)

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During a video address directed at the people of Lebanon, Netanyahu said: "You have an opportunity to save Lebanon before it falls into the abyss of a long war that will lead to destruction and suffering like we see in Gaza.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The irony is that hezbollah formed as a result of Israel invading Lebanon in 1982.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yes, Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982 because the PLO was attacking Israel from there.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Which was because Israel attacked, which was because the arab countries attacked, which was because Britain decided to put Israel in Palestine.

So basically all parties should attack Britain

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The British Empire. Attack it if you like...it m No longer exists.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's the one country with most remaining colonial influence. Look up the British Commonwealth.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I am well aware of that institution, more than you are it seems.

You really consider India to be a colony of the United Kingdom?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not really as it has its own republic. Like all countries in pink

However it's influence is still huge. If their monarch is in your money out their flag is in yours there is s bit more to it than a decolonised entity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. Glad we agree.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I reworded colonies to colonial influence in my original post, as I felt it more accurate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

My point is the last time they tried to invade everyone to get rid of the terrorists, they just created more terrorists in more areas.

[+] [email protected] -25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah fuck Netanjahu, but maybe it would be a good idea to stop launching rockets at Israeli civilians

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Wasn't it israel starting the thing this time with attacks within a sovereign country?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it was Israel firing missiles into northern Israel in support of the Hamas attack

No wait

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Israel bombing an embassy is slightly different than firing rockets at military bases in occupied territory.

There is a case to be made for Hezbollah firing rockets after oct7 but israel was already occupying the Lebanese Shebaa Farms before that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You misspelled bombing an embassy where people made plans to shoot rockets at children playing soccer

Lying about which particular side restarted a frozen border conflict and, proven wrong, moving to the argument that it's suddenly insignificant is retarded

Had Hezbollah not attacked Israel all these people would be alive

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Israel bombed the Druze kids. It was a confirmed Iron Dome rocket failure. You are woefully misinformed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If by 'confirmed' you mean 'claimed by Hezbollah after the damage became apparent, without any evidence whatsoever' then yeah, I guess a lot of other things were 'confirmed' that mysteriously fit your narrative.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Almaydeen wrote a great article pointing out that the impact crater is far too small for a 50kg Falaq1 rocket warhead which israel claims caused the explosion

This is the impact crater in Majdal Shams:

This is a known impact of a Falaq1 rocket:

So the blast crater looks nothing like you'd expect. And Falaq1 rockets do not blast into flames but rather have a big shockwave warhead, as they burn all their fuel on launch. The fences being burnt like this makes no sense.

In contrast the explosion looked exactly like previous Iron Dome failures.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Those impact craters look very comparable to me... What do you suppose it should look like?

Do you consider your source to be unbiased towards Israel?

edit: I must say as I read some more on that site or yours that I'd consider them childishly biased against anything ""Israel""...

Can you provide your comparison with 'previous Iron Dome failures'?

I think this article from AP is much more valuable. They cite, among others, a weapons expert from HRW and the doctor that treated the wounded. What makes you think these people are lying and your source is definitively correct?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A small pile of moved sand looks comparable to a deep hole in the ground?... There's absolutely no way a Falaq-1 rocket produces the explosion which took place in Majdal Shams.

Any time the environment looks burnt and there was a large fireball it's pretty much guaranteed it was a misfired interceptor. Interceptors contain a large amount of fuel which is used to steer the missile, whereas Hezbollah rockets contain high powered explosives which create a shockwave.

Testimonies from locals say it was an interceptor as well.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Sorry but that top picture shows a small crater in the concrete with some sand, and that bottom picture shows a small crater in the asphalt with some sand

I'm going to have to go with the weapons expert from HRW instead of some comically biased website on this one

If you have credible eyewitness reports, please share

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No, even Al Jazeera admits here that Hezbollah (or back then, rather the PLO, followed by Hezbollah later) was the first to strike.

Also, Hezbollah is funded by Iran, which is run by religious extremists that want to eradicate all Jews. Israel, however badly, has been defending itself for decades.

There are many bad actors in this conflict, on all sides, and they all need to be stopped.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/9/18/hezbollah-and-israel-a-timeline-of-conflict

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

Be cooler if Israeli's stopped funding a genocide machine and killing their neighbors.