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It's the dunk tank.

This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Think for a moment on the purpose of that utterance.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Reminds me of arguing with my brother on social media. He's a fucking idiot but when you say the right things, it triggers something in him and he starts using "ergo" instead of therefore randomly out of the blue.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Scratched liberals try so very hard to seem unemotional and above it all when that happens, too.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

In his defence, he's not a scratched lib, he's a fully out and proud fascist.

E: correction, he's a "libertarian".

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I know the type; most of my biological relatives are like that, and what's amazing is they're ethnically descended a variety of people that i-am-adolf-hitler was happy to exterminate and a lot of them are now fucking fans of his. sus-soviet

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

a variety of people that i-am-adolf-hitler was happy to exterminate and a lot of them are now fucking fans of his

Is this the type that hates themselves or the type that thinks they wouldn't get exterminated because they're One Of The Good Ones™?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Is this the type that hates themselves or the type that thinks they wouldn't get exterminated because they're One Of The Good Ones™?

Both.

They're the type that talk about what d-word-nazis-like much of their own ethicities are and they also talk about what they'd have done in WW2 to help "real good guys" win so that the d-word-nazis-like wouldn't take over the world and ruin society with atrocities like... the Civil Rights Movement. all-cops-always-bastards scared-fash They're that fucking awful. I flirt with opsec violation by stating that part of why I moved across the country was to never, ever, see any of them again and so that my offspring never have to in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

That's uncomfortably vaguely familiar.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, it is not the only example. While some Jews (especially Herzlians) do internalize harmful stereotypes, it is rare for them to arrive at the extreme end of the spectrum. Andrew Auernheimer, Daniel Burros, Frank Collin, and Patrol 36 are a few instances representing this extreme: they willingly promoted hatred of (other) Jews in spite of their genealogic links to them.

It is easy to laugh at these types for their obvious hypocrisy, but they should not be underestimated. Anton Arco‐Valley, for byspel, gained the respect of antisemitic gentiles (including Joseph Goebbels) by murdering a Jewish politician. The NYT quoted Hans Priwin, a member of the executive committee of the Association of German National Jews, to downplay antisemitism in the Third Reich. Reinhard Heydrich had some Jewish ancestry. I could go on. Pro‐Axis Jews are rare, but they can be no less dangerous than pro‐Axis gentiles.

By the way, it is interesting to compare how the Herzlian régime treated Patrol 36 to how it treats, say, Palestinian children. The Herzlians treated Patrol 36 with far more dignity than they treat even the youngest Palestinians.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago

I don't laugh because my formative years were surrounded by people whose ancestors were death camp targets and their open bigotry was never funny to me, not even in its hypocrisy.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

That was the joke lol. I did the edit immediately after I made the comment.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Ackshually, it was a full 89 seconds, therefore your entire argument is invalid

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I am a fraud.

How can you tell when I did the edit?

E: oh you can hover over the timestamp, duh.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Okay but also sometimes I get afraid of being misunderstood and I think a lot of ND people have that kind of experience and a sort of self-protection thing is then being very specific in your language

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I get like this too, but i think that's different than pulling out $10 words to try and win an argument - autistic clarification is its own thing to me - I pretty readily switch to a more formal language if i feel misunderstood so i get it

but also

Think for a moment on the purpose of that utterance.

is somebody trying to win

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 weeks ago

Oh yeah for sure, this dude is not doing the ND trauma response, this dude studied the blade.
I guess I felt the need to respond to the tweet, which also covered the overly verboseness.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 weeks ago

This, also I'm just too verbose lea-smug but more than that I've always liked or had a tendency to fight fire with fire.

~~Also maybe as a kid I wanted to be a lawyer, but that was more due to life reasons~~

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

A human being did not post that, that was posted by a fedora that gained sentience.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 weeks ago

I gotta be honest, "I can tell you're assumptive (i.e stupid)" is a solid line and I thought it was written by a hexbear

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Spoilers: burden of proof

I'm dead

I'm flat out on the floor

The worms are coming for me

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I teach a writing class for (aspiring) scientists, and it is so hard to train some smart people out of writing this way. Some people just think that using big words and complicated sentence structure is the best (or only) way to communicate important ideas. The idea that you should always use the simplest language that will do the job takes a lot of getting used to for certain folks. The way some academics write does not help.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I think it comes back to media, the "scientist" in most films and tv shows will use big words to show how smart they are and these people internalise that idea.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

No, it's mostly because STEM types (including me) have a lot to say (not necessarily insightful) but often lack the writing skills necessary to say them concisely because we focused on studying science instead of literature.

Literary writers who don't understand science and just make up mumbo jumbo have the exact opposite problem that we do.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago

Oh ok, I guess I was misunderstanding. And this is clearly your failure to communicate, not mine! /s

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago

I feel like this says a lot about writers lol

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

Link, this person shows their entire ass all throughout the comment chain lmao

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Nope. Trotskyist with some influences from Bakunin. And in case anyone wants to whine against Trotsky, check rule #3 (No sectarianism) .

Is it really sectarianism if it Trotsky and Bakunin though?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I posted a meme about sectarianism and Trotskyism and it spawned a very nice conversation. The general agreement was that light ribbing was almost always fine and it was okay to be a tiny bit meanier to trots because they're dorks that split the party whenever they can.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago

I think some light-hearted joking towards one another is expected. Real talk though, I get a little bit fighty and defensive when people start attacking anarchists when it seems out of malice.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 weeks ago

I get the feeling lots of threads on that comm will end up just like that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

This is the post all the drama is about. CW for SA and vile apologia thereof.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago

it's just them being so mean to me

Funny how it's always how they start off when banned

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago

Edited just for us lmao

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago

Thank you for posting the link so I didn't have to. I thought it was funnier without context because the comment itself doesn't reference anything outside of it

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 weeks ago

Multiple new site tag lines at once!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 weeks ago

Most well adjusted lost lib

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 weeks ago

So... Now that you have had a moment to think about it, what was the purpose of that utterance? I bet it was great!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 weeks ago

Sometimes I think about venturing onto .ml or .world or one of those other instances, then I just see...all of that and don't bother. The smug redditisms, the trying to "umm acktually" their way out of supporting SA, the paragraphs upon paragraphs of fancy words that say nothing at all. The insane conspiracies about Hexbear...it's all just so pathetic.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

The whole thread, the entire thing that starts with that weirdo apologist getting banned, is an alltimer che-smile classic "iamverysmart", in that thread, had a sensible chuckle.

"The word is 'gullibility'" killed me lmao