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TBH I like an elfbar sometimes. But I know how unsustainable they are, buying one feels worse than buying cocaine or meat or insert whatever fun and ethically challenging item.
I've never managed to replicate the disposable taste with a reusable vape, and I've had experience with reusables. Anyone know if it's doable?
Good start. Now expand to all current and future battery devices. Honestly, disposable battery devices are a bad, out of date idea. Doing nothing but long term harm to the environment.
But nothing will change until firms are forced to do so. It's just time until the next huge disposable trend if it is not addressed now.
Aside from the myraid of good arguments about why this is a good thing to be happening.
Having, in a past attempt to quit smoking, used a few. The ones that they tried to make look like a cigarette.
Yeah they are really awful, utterly horrid. I'd rather suck turd out a camels arse. Turned out I'd also rather just stop entirely (sorry, I only lasted about 18 months. but I will mange it)
Shouldve been banned three years ago, but those investors wouldn’t make buck. Now that they did we can care for the environment.
Good. We had perfectly reasonable rebuildables for so long.
And then Juul made disposables popular and in came waves of China disposables.
I saw a disposable vape with a screen and Bluetooth/mic built in. You could play games on it and take calls. That is a ridiculous amount of e-waste.
Who the fuck does that even appeal to?
15 year olds would be my guess
But where are they going to have access to their vape that they don't have access to their phone? Do most 15 yr olds have the disposable income to spend (probably) twice as much for something disposable anyway?
You can have a phone and a vape. Double pleasure.
Good. The batteries alone being disposable is insane. https://stoke.nub.news/news/local-news/staffordshire-university-graduate-uses-disposable-vape-batteries-to-power-electric-scooter-197624
not smoke/vape related.. but I remember buying a couple of these one shot power banks. Disposable thing, it was in like a pouch rather than a case. I did some googling... it looked a lot like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Boostrcharge-Pre-Charged-Emergency-Hurricane-Preparedness/dp/B0BGMK7NWV?th=1
link disclaimer, DO NOT buy this crap
but it was about 10 years ago, they were like a quid each and I think I saw a basket of them at a market stall or something and I got 2. Anyway, lived in my work rucksack for a very long time, never being needed. I lost one, and the otherone the pouch got a bit damaged, so I thought sod it, lets open it.
Couldn't believe it, I was expecting a bunch of alkaline button batteries connected together through a little zener circuit, but no, it was a straight up lithium ion battery.
It should surprise me, but not as anymore. It must be economies of scale making lithium batteries the cheapest thing to do now.
Obviously prohibition doesn't work, but banning disposables specifically should be mandated everywhere. It is insane that a product that contains rechargeable lithium batteries is not rechargeable, or if it is it must be thrown away after less than a month.
I think in this case prohibition should work fine...
The alternative is just... Get a non-disposable one and learn a bit of maintenance. Jesus.
Disposable vapes are easier to hide from parents since you can just throw them away, and also you don't have to worry too much if your teacher confiscates them because they're disposable.
With a non-disposable vape, suddenly things become a lot harder for vaping teenagers.
I'm not suggesting we let teenagers vape, I'm just saying there's a reason teenagers like the disposable ones.
I'd consider this a plus. They're not going to keep manufacturing these just so teenagers can buy them on a grey/black market. Teenagers will still be able to get their hands on vapes, but less consistently.
Well it'll work in this case because they're not banging people from doing something they're banning companies from doing something.
If a product is not available for sale then it's difficult for people to purchase it
now where will bigclive get free discarded lithium cells?
we need a clean, biodegradable version of vapes. maybe use some form of paper? and instead of juice just use the actual leaves from the tobacco plant
Why paper? Why not just use the leaves?
And instead of pasteurizing it and adding a bunch of chemicals, we just let it sit and develop on its own? Naturally fermented like everything else that tastes complex and amazing?
We just invented cigars.
And pipe tobacco! I have a collection of tobacco blends I'm aging.
Use my vape (with rechargeable batteries) for addiction maintenance.
Tobacco is too pleasurable a luxury to give up. Harm reduction is the way to go for me.
it's insane they ever took hold. in the 20 fucking 20s. people look at my refillable mod like I'm holding a walkman
As someone who is using a nicotine vape to wean off of nicotine, I still don't understand why people buy disposable ones.
It's less cost-effective, less customizable, and more sketchy.
In my experience most of the non-disposable options are either super bulky or just shitty build quality. Pods that leak, or burn out super quickly. Vapes that just stop working or break super quickly. Incredible inconsistency in where/what pods are available.
None of these are insurmountable problems, but as of right now most companies seem uninterested in making a better product.
It's easy.
It's closer in spirit to buying a pack of smokes, it's easy to just grab one on the way somewhere, less of an issue if you lose it or have to toss it(like at some concert venues), easier to give to your friends, and generally they are much smaller, so easier to conceal.
Wow, I normally don't think of England when it comes to countries who have their shit together!
Don’t get used to it.
One time I saw England return a library book on time. It made me so proud.
The disposable black market & associated disproportionate rise in youth vaping in Australia results from the illegality of all vapes, not just disposables. It's hard to imagine it becoming a burgeoning black market predicated solely on that vapers find the highly available, better value, relatively environmentally friendly option untenable. Overall a sensible move I think coming from a pro-vape perspective