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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago (6 children)

'lore accurate mods'

it's a fictional work, the only thing it has to be accurate to is itself!

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It’s such a reactionary dog whistle. I used to be one of those “lore accurate” nerds for Tolkein. But for stuff like, “It’s Dwarves, not Dwarfs, that was intentional by Tolkein so we should use Dwarves as the plural.”

When I saw the same nerds I used to argue unimportant shit like that with turn around and say “The elves can’t be black and I’m not racist it’s just the lore” I ran out of there so fast.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it used to mean "this doesn't have thomas the tank engine or anime characters in it"

now it usually means "no gay stuff"

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

I'll be cold dead in the ground before I recognize "Macho Man Randy Savage dragons" are not lore accurate.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

it's a fictional work, the only thing it has to be accurate to is itself!

Earlier versions of that fiction are likely to have more us-foreign-policy

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

its wild

for one the official lore of faerun is so jumbled and often contradictory over the years that you could almost say anything about it and it would be true according to one official source of another

on the other hand because the lore is a cooperative element of each table who is actively playing the game and thereby writing it as they go along anything you like is lore accurate because you are one of the writers of the lore yourself as a player and a gm

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Lore accurate mods probably means adding boobs to lizards and making black people white if I had to guess (yes both exist) gamer-gulag

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (4 children)

One of the coolest things about reptiles is gender ambiguity. No boobs, they have a genital slit and many of them have a retractable penis, sometimes two. Some female reptiles and choose whether or not to get pregnant and/or store cum for later. Imagine how interesting a society like that would be, and what kinds of gender roles, relationship norms, and such would shake out.

That’s the kind of stuff fantasy could really explore. Turning them into people with scales, keeping the obvious secondary sexual characteristics, is fucking boring and played out.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

many of them have a retractable penis

che-no

sometimes two

nicholson-yes

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, unfortunately a lot of big fictional worlds lack creativity. When it comes to making sapient species, Egyptian god -looking anthros are the most interesting thing they can produce.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

To be honest, it's just easier for the devs when every character in the game can use the same equipment and animations

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

This is definitely true for computer games, and is also a major factor in television and film. But you also see it in illustration and literature where the only limit is one's own (apparently very limited) imagination.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Morrowind made the Argonians different and not able to wear boots before taking the easy way out in the next two games.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Those who are against lizard boobs are against me

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Boobless lizards is a world I don't want to live in.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Noticer? Morel ike notice deez nuts

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's funny because they're trying to come up with a term that's equal to woke but isn't woke.

"noticer" or "vigilant" or some other synonym for woke that isn't "asleep"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Hey daddy-o, are you hep to the space lasers?

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lore Accurate Dungeons and Dragons? A world built specifically to be a storytelling framework for custom stories?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

they're a gygaxhead for sure

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Real D&Dheads know that the Forgotten Realms setting was written by Ed Greenwood to be weird and horny.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even Gygax wasn't terribly orthodox. The setting was a grab bag of high fantasy, lovecraftian horror, steampunk alt-history, and Greek tragedy.

He never had a problem throwing a goblin, a minotaur, a vampire, and a robot in the same dungeon.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i'm not talking about his orthodoxy, i'm suggesting that someone wanting to make baldur's gate 3 "non-woke" and "lore accurate," they're dogwhistling towards the reactionary elements of gygax's setting of dnd, of which there are many

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gygax pill me please. Didn't he want you to only be able to play as humans? What other wonderful chauvinisms did he have?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gygax on alignment:

Paladins are not stupid, and in general there is no rule of Lawful Good against killing enemies. The old adage about nits making lice applies. Also, as I have often noted, a paladin can freely dispatch prisoners of Evil alignment that have surrendered and renounced that alignment in favor of Lawful Good. They are then sent on to their reward before they can backslide.

[…]

Chivington might have been quoted as saying "nits make lice," but he is certainly not the first one to make such an observation as it is an observable fact. If you have read the account of wooden Leg, a warrior of the Cheyenne tribe that fought against Custer et al., he dispassionately noted killing an enemy squaw for the reason in question.”

Love to use historical genocidal racism as a basis for a morality system! Its apolitical though, you’re not allowed to have reservations about an admitted racist representing certain peoples as inherently evil and worthy of extermination. That’s not even getting into DnD portrayals of “darkest Africa” and “the mysterious Orient”

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah, that's about what I expected. And the Forgotten Realms, which Baldur's Gate takes place in, is decades old and built on these same racist foundations. And a lot of it gets unquestioned. Goblins are still ontologically evil in the game and it's always OK to kill them, and the concept of "surrender" does not exist. The Orientalist shit is all canon to the world, but they're loathe to retcon it so instead they just ignore it. Meanwhile D&D as a system took forever to realize that maybe races shouldn't be evil by their very nature but then they proceed to create fantasy British people enslaving monkey people in the year of Juche 111. agony

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

crackerus-foreign-policy "noticing some issues with the lore here"

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

noticer

Fash dogwhistle vibes

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

because it is one

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

These dorks are so media illiterate that it would be a miracle if they noticed anything.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to notice wokeness. The signs are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of noticing theory most of these signs will go over a typical viewer's head.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

you need a high wq

wokeness quotient

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Truly a prestigious title, noticer. Surely this must be the most skilled of the illusive noticers. The noticest if you will.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

based mods and lore accurate mods

That means us-foreign-policy and awooga like in the Witcherino.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There was literally a mod to make Wyll white because they can't handle the existence of dark-skinned people in a cosmopolitan metropolis with Renaissance-level tech

Motherfuckers don't even know about Reasonable Blackman

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not going to lie, I read that as "nouncer"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

More like noncer epstein

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Noticer" apparently means "waiting to find something to get reactionary about." grill-broke

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

This story about agency, hierarchy and its relationship to authority is totally apolitical when you ignore the gay relationships and minority representation.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That obsession with dyed hair always gets me. Are they hiring managers for Starbucks in 2008 or something?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably cognitive dissonance, they're super attracted to colored hair women, but they tend to be too progressive for them.

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