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[–] [email protected] 184 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (21 children)

This is from the city where it's illegal to be homeless. One man even collected over $100,000 in fines for being homeless.

Yeah, that'll help.

[–] [email protected] 111 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Man that sounded wild to me, so I dug around a bit and it's fucking true. Although the amount is closer to $110,000 it's still insane.

[–] [email protected] 94 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Hey, we heard you can't afford a house, so we're charging you fines in the amount of what it would have cost to buy a house.......we're so cool! We solved homelessness! Because now if you want to be homeless, it actually costs more to NOT buy a house. So you may as well just buy a house!

We did it guys! We ended the concept of homelessness! High five!

[–] [email protected] 47 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I mean why don't the homeless just buy a house? Are they stupid?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Have they tried just being rich and buying their own building to sleep in front of?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 days ago

Maybe it's their broke mentality that's the issue bro stay on the grind 🔥 💯

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 days ago

Aaaah, I love living in a capitalist hellscape

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago

Jokes on them, noise canceling headphones are cheaper than a house

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The article says the music is played to keep the emergency stairwells empty. If you haven't lived around unhoused before, they can take up a lot of space with their belongings and can be pretty unresponsive.

Exactly the kind of thing you don't want in an emergency stairwell.

Honestly if the owners of a building CAN'T keep the emergency stairwell clear then the building should be shut down for everyone for safety reasons.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 days ago (15 children)

Doesn’t this violate the Geneva convention ?

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 days ago (3 children)

My highschool did this with classical music to make us fuck off after school was over. Jokes on them in into that shit

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Everyone likes at least some classical music, most people are far too cool to admit it though.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

Growing up I absolutely did not like classical music. Turns out it was the recording (bad micing of the orchestra) and mastering (the old "super quiet, super quiet, super quiet, briefly louder, super quirt thing). For mastering you could claim you're being true to the original performance (lots of dynamic range), but when you're listening to a live performance that's all you're doing and there's no background noise.

Turns out I do like classical music, I just really didn't like the way it was recorded and mastered back when I would be exposed to it as a kid.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Great way to lose customers

Having said that, what's up with the "unhoused" thing? It homeless. Are we now calling it differently because homeless is now all of the sudden insulting? How long until "unhoused" suddenly is a bad word?

Can we please just stop pushing changing words? Homeless is fine, you're without a home. It sucks, people should support you, not shun you, but changing words is just virtue signalling that doesn't do anything to make anything better for anyone

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

but changing words is just virtue signalling that doesn’t do anything to make anything better for anyone

.... And if you are the type of neoliberal politician that wants to pretend they care about people while never actually doing anything to help anyone other than the megacorps when you get into power -- Then this is literally all you'll ever do for people. Linguistic fuckery. Making up new words for things. Fucking around with definitions. And you know that there will be an army of people who will defend this, and shoot down people who actually want to do something on grounds that they said the "wrong" words.

The argument for 'unhoused' is that it humanises the person -- But it's really pushing it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, this... Stop haggling with words, actually do something to fix it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Spoiler: they won't

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We can solve homelessness once and for all by making every part of civilization just suck as much as possible. If literally no part of our society is capable of supporting safety and life, then all the homeless people will just move along

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Homelessness? Oh, you mean unhousedness! Many of them are also unreadful and non-jobulated.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 5 days ago (13 children)

Unhoused? Has homeless as a word been banned?

[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Not sure about Canada, but in the US:

Homeless = no permanent residence, which also includes couch surfing, parents and children who just fled an abusive family member and are temporarily ltaying with friends or relatives, and people who are living in their car. All people without a home.

Unhoused = homeless people that don't have a roof over their heads. Might include living in a car.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (12 children)

They are synonyms. Please don't make things up.

Edit: to all the knee-jerk downvoting. This is literally a quote from an article the user himself supplied as proof that there is a difference.

Unhoused is probably the most popular alternative to the word “homeless.” It’s undoubtedly the one I see most often recommended by advocates. But it doesn’t have a meaningful difference in connotation from the more common term, “homeless.”

It's literally just a pc synonym of homeless.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I think the idea is to put the responsibility for housing onto society/authority as opposed to the victim.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)
  • Fuck these greedy, utterly insensitive, bastards.
  • Malls are generally owned by large corps in the business of owning malls. Anyone know offhand who owns this one so I can avoid their other properties?
  • How many “housing first,” programs could we run using a year of the company’s profit?
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[–] [email protected] 59 points 5 days ago (3 children)

What about the people who work there? Are they trying to make them quit then become homeless and leave the mall too?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 days ago (1 children)

According to the article, it plays in the emergency exit stairwells, a place that if you're using it you should be trying to leave as quickly as possible.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 5 days ago (2 children)

If I was escaping a fire, and the stairwell had baby shark playing, I'd walk back into the fire.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago

I really don't want to die with Baby Shark being the last song I hear

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I mean, this will keep me away too, and I'm "housed" and even occasionally legitimately go to malls with money to spend on things. You play even one loop of that song and I'm Swayze.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 days ago (7 children)

What's with the wording of this title? "Unhoused people" instead of "Homeless"/"Homeless people"

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 days ago

It's like the difference between calling someone wittless and uneducated.

One implies that's just how the person is, the other implies a failing of society/family.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago

I like the word unhoused, it implies they should just be housed if they are homeless. Everyone should be housed, even if they don't own a home

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago

Interesting case of military tatics in a civilian settings. First Decide is blasted at the Vatican embassy, then born in the USA is looped at Guantanamo Bay, now this

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Jokes on them. The homeless loitering are veterans that lost their hearing in the wars we’ve been fighting since 2001.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Just in case people do not fully grasp the amounts of "doo"s in this song:

Baby shark, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

Baby shark, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

Baby shark, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

Baby shark!

Mommy shark, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

Mommy shark, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

Mommy shark, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

Mommy shark!

Daddy shark, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

Daddy shark, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

Daddy shark, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

Daddy shark!

Grandma shark, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

Grandma shark, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

Grandma shark, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

Grandma shark!

Grandpa shark, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

Grandpa shark, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

Grandpa shark, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

Grandpa shark!

Let's go hunt, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

Let's go hunt, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

Let's go hunt, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

Let's go hunt!

Run away, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

Run away, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

Run away, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

Run away!

Safe at last, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

Safe at last, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

Safe at last, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

Safe at last!

It's the end, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

It's the end, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

It's the end, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

It's the end!

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Fuck the people who work there, amirite?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes, that is the basis of the economic system.

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[–] sp3tr4l 27 points 5 days ago (5 children)

At least its music, though this does confirm that Baby Shark is something they'd have played at Gitmo if it'd been around 2 decades ago.

I have been to many places where things like these are everywhere:

Imagine this but diesel powered, a bit chonkier, and they just emit this high pitched scream (there are other versions called 'mosquito alarms'), and has extremely bright, blue strobing lights that will induce seizures in anyone susceptible.

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