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Summary

Anti-Trump Americans, especially on the left, are showing a more subdued response to Trump’s 2024 reelection compared to the activism of 2016.

Exhaustion, disillusionment with repeated setbacks, and negative media coverage have led many to disengage from politics or shift focus to personal priorities.

Activist groups, like Women’s March, are planning protests but acknowledge lower enthusiasm and more localized efforts.

Experts suggest this “tune-out” may be a coping mechanism, with some hoping new, non-political participants will lead change.

Many feel drained but believe activism will eventually regain momentum.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I honestly don't care anymore.

We just failed the most blatant test we could possibly be given. Americans are hopeless. Take the politics and politicians out of the equation and you've still got an abundance of stupid Americans. That story doesn't end well regardless of other factors.

We simply aren't intelligent or responsible enough as a whole to maintain a democracy.

I'll be going with the "ignorance is bliss" strategy at the end of this calendar year. I'll probably still vote in local elections, but I'm done on the federal level. Too many stupid Americans for me to keep trying to care on a large scale.

We're going down. The only question is the speed at which it will happen.

I live in California, so I'll be able to maintain rights while others elsewhere lose them. And at this point, I have so little faith in Americans that I simply can't bring myself to care about them anymore.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I totally understand feeling worn out but I know there is light at the end of the tunnel if unite and work together. In 2025 there are going to be local elections. These local elections really matter because they decide who will run your community. In 2026 the House and some Senate seats are up for election along with some governess. That election I think will determine the fate of this country. We must come back stronger than ever vote out all the corrupt politicians who oppose our democracy.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

The Dems raised billions for the election and lost. What did I receive after donating thousands of dollars to them.

Pleas for more money. Give us just a little bit more money and we will finally do something.

I’m done. We should fight the fascists but the corporate democrats have been completely captured. They only know how to raise money and hand it to consultants that will tell them to parade around Liz fucking Cheney.

I’m not paying them to slide further and further to the right anymore.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I think we are just at the "fine, let them stick the fork in the outlet" stage, and if that leads to 50 years of hard times and being on the evil side of the next great war.....oh fuckin well...we told you so.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Yep, that's pretty much it. I look at the results of the election and wonder why we bothered to fight so hard to save America from it's own worst impulses. There's never a shortage of people willing to vote against their own self-interest. The second coming of Trump could, and should, be a new era of social Darwinism that cleans up the clueless electorate with some hard fucking times. People who are withdrawing from politics right now and "tuning out" are just focusing on not being a casualty, and I can't blame them. At some point, you have to let the drowning person go or they'll drag you down with them.

I'm totally prepared for whatever the next 4 years have in store for me. If Trump blows up the economy, I'll survive. Best of luck to everybody else.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

Yup. Pretty much feel the same way.

Americans want to suffer. Now they're going to suffer. I'm going to let them. I'll survive. I have a stable job and live in a state that protects my rights. I'm totally fine watching the people who voted to suffer do so. They'll either learn from the hard experiences or not. I'll find joy in watching them do either. I could care less now.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This is a damned shame to say the least but I’m as guilty as anyone.

My own ostrich coping mechanism has been long term personal goals and wondering what I’ll do when I can no longer work and SS is gone.

It’s put me in a shitty state of mind lll admit, and I have no excuses. Overwhelmed is a statement of fact, not an excuse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Exactly, focus on the controllables in life. I did the 1 thing I could which was vote and combat mis/disinformation when I saw it. The dumb won. I just gotta stay nose to the grindstone for my career and watch this shit show unfold. People are too dumb to vote for taxing billionaires and fixing our shitty healthcare and education systems because eggs cost too much. It's not my fault they can't be bothered to read and vet their information sources.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Nope. This is the correct response. Democrats need to relax, because they work too hard to craft intelligent messages while the other side calls them names like a four year old and sells ugly ass shoes and watches all while desecrating the flag because a billionaire asking for more money makes perfect sense to some people...

Democrats need to dumb down their messaging. Comedy vs the next president needs to be slapstick level with focus on doing makeup in the morning, eating McDonald's, and farting. Explanations for things like tariffs need to be laid out on TikTok so anyone at or below a 6 grade comprehension level can understand.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

Democrats need to dumb down their messaging.

Yup. Stupid wins in America. Next election (if there is one), Democrats need to run the dumbest, most emotionally charged, lying bullshit they possibly can. Because that's what wins in America. Fabricated, emotional bullshit.

They need to find their version of "Immigrants are eating people's pets in Springfield, Ohio".

Americans are dumb. You have to play to that to win.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

No this is just the liberal establishment demonstrating their aggressively "meh it won't really affect me" attitude. If you are in a left wing organization, more people are showing up and joining and participating than in years. DSA membership increased like 25% just since the election, in an org that was losing members. Not everyone is checked out, some people are very active.

If you aren't connected to an org, go to meetings and join one, pay dues if you can! If you don't know where to start, just ask! Answers will probably vary by area and some people are more isolated but there's still lots that can be done, even if you're stuck at home.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

And this is why the right well always win. They go for what they want till they get it. How long did they fight to repel row vs wade?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

Row vs wade... Funny.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

they tuned out years ago. that's why he's president again. who even cares about anything at this point? fuck it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The people who are tuning out now are the ones who are active during the elections. We exhausted ourselves trying to get someone we didn't really believe in elected president against someone we truly feared. And it was all for nothing because the Democratic party is incapable of appealing to the lower class.

I suspected we were in trouble when Kamala Harris embraced the endorsement from that absolutely turd bag Dick Cheney and is equally shit daughter Liz. I saw Hillary try to pull the same stupid strategy back in 2016. They keep trying to lure Republicans to the Democratic side and it never never never works. Republicans do not care how "fiscally responsible" you tell them that you are. They will always vote for the person with the (R) next to their name. And while they're doing that they are repelling just everyone on the left. Especially those who are poor and don't give a shit how fiscally responsible you are they just want a break.

And now I really don't have any faith in the Democratic party at all. I don't think they're as bad as Republicans but they sing their songs to the same tunes the Republicans do. Just with different lyrics.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

the Democratic party is incapable of appealing to the lower class.

Anyone to whom Cheney is appealing is of appallingly low class.

Oh, you mean economic class.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

What's wrong, people don't want a 24/7 news cycle of all the stupid shit Dumpster will say and do!?

You mean our media system pushing to have the Orange One elected to increase their ratings could backfire!?

I could only hope people stop paying attention and paying money for the corporate spun garbage we call news.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

i'm preparing mentally for the potential of a civil war ok. I need to be ready to bear the costs of the conflict, if it happens.

anyway, politically in the next four years we need to start building something we can't just sit here and pretend that the DNC will unfuck itself and stop being incompetent half the time, and we also can't pretend that abstaining from voting is going to fix things.

We need to be doing things, which for some reason, people really hate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

There is no help coming. The best thing to be doing now is logging out and getting structures in place to support your community.

Building community locally. Find the people doing good things around you and help them.

"Look for the helpers"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

What are we supposed to do? We tried, this one had no ambiguity. If this is what people want, so be it. Gonna suck though so I’m spending my efforts on bracing myself for what’s to come.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

We tried, this one had no ambiguity.

I disagree. There is ambiguity to be found. The ambiguity cannot be found in why Trump won. He has a cult and inflation is a thing. But there exists ambiguity in why Harris lost. I do not believe in the notion that Americans are so hell-bent on fascism that they overwhelmingly support Trump and everything he does. I think Harris lost because she moved to the right and failed to meaningfully differentiate herself from an administration that inspired so much apathy that Biden himself said that he didn't care all that much if he lost.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

nah, I don’t attribute it to malice, I attribute it to stupidity and ignorance.

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