Nationalism class w/ guns for kids is a banger combo
this post was submitted on 18 Dec 2024
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shows thumbnail of middle/high school age kids
https://xcancel.com/visegrad24/status/1868438030521864280
The video mentions the primary school contains students from 1st to 8th grade, and then says 13-14 year olds arm themselves in gym, so maybe it is exclusive to the students in their last year of primary school.
The children yearn for the trenches.
Make Poland a Soviet Puppet Again
On the one hand its great that they're teaching the proletariat to use guns. On the other hand I have a hard time imagining how "gun shagging and fascist propaganda" class is not going to have some really nasty consequences down the line.
blowback season 7 is gonna be great
I know not what media blowback season x will be recorded on, but blowback season x+1 will be painted on the walls of a cave.
Literally the exact same thought. 😆
“The proletariat” 🤣
Stop making me laugh
These people are not the “proletariat’ in the same way Israelis being allowed to have guns is not
Every right wing nut wants national service, but a factor in many imperial countries dropping it was that it taught basic combat skills to working class people who didn't necessarily want to be there.
Like May 1968 ultimately fizzled out in France but a concern at the time was it would turn into a live civil war if protestors, students and unionists etc seized weapons.
Yep. Trotsky era red army was full of ww1 conscripts who jumped to communism because of the shit situation the russian empire was. Jukov for example was one of the conscripted, lower class guys.
In a good country this would be good, but we live in this hellish timeline where the soviet block was destroyed.
Barring the fact that it seems like a lot of reactionary news outlets are pushing this as a sort of anti-woke great patriotic ideal to teach elementary/primary school kids how to shoot AKs and that sounds like a load of shit because you'd want to do that sort of shit in high school in addition to the fact the kids they're showing looks around high school age, therefore I'm not 100% convinced on the veracity on the level of penetration the poles are aiming for in their jingoistic firearm training though their education system... That said, teaching young adults how to handle firearms isn't exactly a new thing. Many, I'm not particularly sure about the universality of it, of the warsaw pact nations instituted compulsory firearm handling and/or shooting courses across the history of the pact's existence, as well as quite a few U.S schools from roughly the '80s back had similar programs (regional dependent).
That said, fuck them war hungry fuckers in Polania, fuck the jingoistic monsters eagerly cheering at the prospect of sending Poland's future into the charnel house, and most important of all fuck the EU.
pic, 1970s or around there soviet classroom where they're learning shit about guns
We still had classes like in the pic in the 2000s (post-Soviet country)!
EDIT: our teacher was an Afghanistan veteran, we learned how to shoot (with a compressed air rifle), how to assemble/disassemble an AK, how to load/unload an AK magazine, and some basic military code stuff, e.g., how to march and how to report to an officer. It was a mandatory high school class for students around 16.
Make Poland three different countries again
It's abjectly terrifying how hard NATO is pursuing escalation in spite of Russia's nuclear capability.
What's the point of being in the NATO then? 
You buy US weapons and equipment and let them have their bases wherever they want.
They get to kill brown people without repercussions.
Meat for the grinder :(
Looks like they're handing the kids guns in the gymnasium lmao
The race to become the new school shooting capital of the world is intense, with Poland taking pre-emptive measures.
This is a W. They're doing our job for us: arming the working class of the next generation.
I don't know. Was it a W when the Hitler Youth got the same training? It's not like these kids are all that likely to use this knowledge for a good purpose. Maybe I'm being pessimistic.
No you’re being optimistic lmao
I'm optimistic about the future. I think it'll be alot harder to propogandize the youth than it was back in Nazi Germany. There's bound to be quite a few radicalized communists, too
Have you never studied about Poland ??????
These people say that the “Nazis were better than Soviets cause Nazis are civilized”
In what way are you optimistic
Anti communism is a state policy ,communist parties are absolutely illegal there and you’re taught that Stalin and Hitler are the same
These are the people teaching them
No it’s not
“Working class”
Lmao
These are all labour aristocrats
Who would use these to shoot immigrants
Poland is not in the imperial core, it very much would like to be an imperialist power, but it isnt, the degree of exploitation is not as high as in the 3rd world, but its still exploited by the imperialist powers, for example germany uses poland for cheap labour
The funniest thing is that right-wingers in Poland usually use contradictory narratives to push their narrative of "communism bad, capitalism good". Poland wants to be considered western, but at the same time it always blames the west (especially Germany for partitions and nazi occupation, and allies for "betrayal") for its shortcomings. The Germans are also blamed for "controlling" liberal political parties, while conservatives also usually implement reforms that allow for lower taxes for western corporations and privileged treatment in special economic zones that benefit Germany. Poles know that their economy is almost totally dependent on the EU, but somehow they always want to make it seem like that the economy is a "miracle" compared to PPR. Polish political discourse is also filled with absolutely insane russophobia and orientalism, to the point where General Staff of the Polish Army, for example, shows this nonsense on their twitter account. Poland weaponizes its "victimhood" to force anti-russian and anti-communist narratives, but at the same time it wants to be like the countries that abused Poland.
Ukraina jest dziś przedmurzem nowej-starej bolszewii, tak jak kiedyś Polska (15 sierpnia 1920 r.).
Today, Ukraine is a bulwark of the new-old Bolshevik, just like Poland once was (August 15, 1920).
I completely agree
Tell them about Afghanistan and Iraq and they will show their hypocrisy
It very much a servent of imperialist powers
And is an imperial power
Just a very small one
The idea their actions in Afghanistan and Iraq aren’t imperialist is laughable
I agree that poland is a loyal dog of the imperialists, but it isnt an imperialist power itself, it didnt make the decisions to invade Iraq and Afghanistan and never benefited from it, it merely aided in these invasions to demonstrate it's servility
They're children. They have no blood on their hands yet. It is our job to ensure they're properly educated.
It is our job to ensure they're properly educated
????
They’re from Poland
Communist parties are illegal there
I’m not saying I hate these kids ,I’m saying that they’re being taught by anti communist losers who are teaching them to use on immigrants and not for “self defense”
I despise Poland with every fiber of my being ,not just for its anti communism ,it’s disgusting Neo nazism
But for pretending to be a “victim” for so long , “we have never colonized anyone” and immediately invading Poland and Iraq
Poland doesn’t even have to do with either country and their people were happy with the disgusting crimes they did there
Labour aristocrats are still workers. Living in the imperial core doesn't mean you automatically become a bougie.
Yeah, seriously. By the standard he's using, I am more of a labour aristocrat because I actually live in the imperial core. I'm still a communist though.
Writing off children as your enemy is pretty fucking disgusting on top of that. That's what fascists do. That's what Isreal does to justify bombing innocent palistinian children.
I am a Palestinian and I live in Palestine ,not in the west
Maybe I would consider them part of”proletariat” if their immigration policy wasn’t to literally shoot any illegal immigrants
What’s disgusting is praising an act of a shitty Imperialist state like Poland
I'm not praising their intentions. I am laughing at them because as the imperial apparatus crumbles, these children will grow to resent the system which raised them. They are sowing the seeds of their own destruction.
With that I refuse to engage with you further on this. From the very start you spoke in a hostile manner. I understand your anger, but you need to chill and not assume these children are going to grow up to be your enemy, even if that's what their government has in mind.
Have a good day.
You have a good day too
As the other person said, I guess I'm just not as optimistic based on what I know about 2020s Poland. I hope to be proven wrong though!
: When the time comes 